David Axelrod: Swizz vs. Joe Fatal vs. Beatnuts vs. Black Sheep

David Axelrod: “Holy Thursday”
From Songs of Innocence (1968)

Lil’ Wayne: “Dr. Carter”
From Tha Carter III (2008)
Produced by Swizz Beatz

Fat Joe: “Bronx Keeps Creating It”
From Jealous One’s Envy (1995)
Produced by Joe Fatal

The Beatnuts: “Hit Me With That”
From Street Level (1994)
Produced by The Beatnuts

Black Sheep: “Without A Doubt”
From Non-Fiction (1994)
Produced by Black Sheep & Salaam Remi

Whew! When I took a listen to Lil’ Wayne’s latest album and got to the Swizz Beatz’s produced “Dr. Carter”, I was like damn, I know this sample’s been flipped before. It’s been flipped many times actually. Thomas came back and started emailing me all this other tracks that have sampled David Axelrod’s “Holy Thursday” and I was like ‘holy shit’. Anyway, there were so many great flips, that I had to pick three others to go against Dr. Carter and Swizzy.

Honestly, Swizz did nothing to the track. He basically just laid Weezy’s vocals over a loop. The other examples were flipped pretty tight. Beatnuts and Black Sheep? I torn between those to. But tell us what you think… or maybe on of the other tracks listed below…

“Holy Thursday” was also sampled in:

Apache – “Tonto”
Artifacts – “C’mon wit Da Git Down”
InI – “Think Twice” (produced by Pete Rock)
Mix Master Mike – “Black Level Clearance”
Quasimoto – “Return of the Loop Digga”
Red Hot Lover Tone – “Bust tha Maneuva”
UNKLE – “Rabbit in your Headlights”

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Thomas

Joe Fatal’s take on the track reeks of that mid 90′s knock and has other elements involved.

The Beatnuts (who are under rated as producers) weave this sample the other beautifully together. Lots of stuff going on in the track, but it works.

Swizz’s beat is just a loop of the track. Nothing special to it…simple. Conceptually Wayne’s song is stronger, but we’re talking about the track…not the lyrics/content of the song.
Don_Gorgon

holy thursday is also sampled in the chorus of “nasty scene” from the deda & pete rock “the original baby pa”
wmjj47

I think Fat Joe’s version is the best out of those given. Apache and The Artifacts versions are also my favorites!
http://www.myspace.com/robbtobb snd

joes has the best knock, wayne and swiss best concept swiss didnt FLIP nothin, beatnuts fliped it best! pretty much Thomas hit it on the nose!
S.T.T.R.E.S.S.

The 90s was the best for hip hop because you had more producers consistently coming out with “neck breakers”.I would have to give this one to Joe Fatal because that track was sooooo hard and at the same time melodic.I love Knock!!!!!I like the Beatnuts and the Black Sheep & Salaam Remi joints. They were always hitting with the party tracks.I’m not quite sure if it was used in Apache’s Tonto but if i’m not mistaken,it was used in Gangster Bitch I would have to go and check that out
Induna

You have the wrong Black Sheep track. It’s actually the Lawnges Mix of the 12″ that uses the Holy Thursday sample and it’s the best of all these other tracks that use the same sample. Better than Lil’ Wayne and Fat Joe’s effort.
Induna

I’ve put up a link to the track. Grab it quick.

http://www.zshare.net/download/16864120c66f0c0f/
Javier Zamora

Regardless, this is good breakdown of the songs history in hip hop.
dinasorceoius

Kevin,
I have followed your writing and admire your honesty,integrity but most important as a huge fan of “The Maestro” aka David Axelrod you seem to keep your pulse on this living, still working legend! Kudos to you as only a small handful truly realize a proven artistic genius in their lives among them.. Now,the public is slowly finding out…30 years later about
AXELROD!
However, I think the best use of the legendary sample
of “The Edge” was not by Dre,Snoop,etc., but Masta Ace
titled “No Regrets”. AXELROD is being interviewed by NPR along the East coast and he is actually being interviewed very deep under “The Edge” by Masta Ace
and his vocals; which is a reverse homage (I believe to AXE)with his voal lyrics. What do you all think? Check it out as “AXE” repeats “No Regrets”. Great , artistic use of a master’s work.
http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

Thanks dinasorceoius, David Axelrod is most definitely the man. I’ll have to take a listen again to the Masta Ace track. Maybe we’ll have a new contender for a “who flipped it better”!
dana axelrod

Kevin,
I came across what I think is the best ever use of a sample of “Holy Thursday”!

The song is called “SHAKE THIS” by ROYCE DA 59! CHECK IT OUT !
Best Flipped! in my opinion!!

thanks
Dana Axelrod
Championprods@netzero.com
http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

nice call on Shake This
http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

Dana, good call… and thanks for stopping by! For those that don’t know, Dana is Mr. David Axelrod’s son!
http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

“Holy Thursday” and “The Smile” sound extactly the same. Lil Wayne’s credits say “The Smile” and The Breaks say both.

Somebody point out the differences between each song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODX_-UduAc “The Smile”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h04Tc-WzvUk “Holy Thursday”

Both sound the same. The percussion in “Holy Thursday” is a little “harder” than in “The Smile”

I’m confused. Maybe Kev we should post something about this?

David Axelrod: Swizz vs. Joe Fatal vs. Beatnuts vs. Black Sheep

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