Review: 808s & Heartbreak

by Sean Deez on November 29, 2008

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Deez Note: I found this album very hard to review. After a very intriguing conversation with my man Freddie C, I figured that his input should be on this as well. We collaborated for a K Nots first! Hopefully ya’ll will see more of Freddie C.

With the latest Kanye West release, 808s & Heartbreak, Kanye has provided something unique and perhaps revolutionary. Does that mean it is a good album? He has done the whole thing in autotone (save for a few moments here and there). Does that make it a bad album? The fact is, after a week of listening to this album, you may feel like the album cover: deflated and shriveled.

It is so hard to ignore the negatives on this album because after one listen through, they slap you in the face. “Robocop” may be one of the silliest songs heard in recent memory. The biggest problem is the feeling of hope that the song gives the listener. In fact, he crushes this hope. Any signs of optimism on “Bad News” are squashed, as Kanye‘s high notes are not the only thing relevant to the title; the song is a wreck. The only reason why “Love Lockdown” has proven to be significant is because of its catchy aftertaste. The early 90′s house feel gives it some oomph, still, the singing is painful and because it is, any crumbs of musical genius are swept off the table by the damp, wet cloth of Kanye‘s vocals.

His voice is pretty bad; however, “Street Lights” is quite beautiful. For once, the prospective sound that has been tickled with throughout the album gets unleashed on the 3 minute introspective look on his achievements. “Heartless” is another track that shows what this album could’ve been. It is the perfect blend of a Kanye we are familiar with and the Kanye we are coming to know; both on the production and on the microphone.

Listening to 808s often feels like a drag; the beats don’t evolve, the vocoder annoys and the subject matter bores. Considering all the names that were (apparently) helping complete this album, No I.D, Herbie Hancock, and Mike Dean, the production seems entirely rushed, cluttered, misplaced and unfit. Despite all of these flaws, the album grabs the audiences attention due to the catchy hooks and addictive production, no matter how asinine.

Lyrically, it is far from a masterpiece. In fact, Kanye‘s “miracle whips” punchline certainly more clever than anything you’ll hear on this album and easily more genuine. And this is where Kanye‘s apologists will jump in and ask, “How is this album not as genuine as the previous three? If anything, this album is Kanye stripped bare and Kanye at his most authentic. How are you gonna hate on Kanye as he pours his heart out?” This, of course, begs the question: were his previous three albums not genuine? Isn’t that why we bought into Kanye in the first place? “Through the Wire” was, for many, an introduction to this Kanye West character. And that song is one of the most genuine songs you’ll hear, as he invites us to share in his trial and triumph.

Another argument in defense of this album is that autotune can make a song more emotional. Sure. It can also make it a hell of a lot more annoying. Kanye comes off sounding like a broke-ass Zapp & Roger. (“I Wanna Be Your Man” > this album). Kanye has a superb ability to be introspective when he raps, so the singing isn’t exactly necessary. Neither is the use of autotune, which could simply be used as a marketing tool.

Look no further than “Robocop” and “See You in My Nightmares” with Weezy for ear aches, not heartbreaks. Give him credit though; he’s got courage and determination. However, after hearing 808s, a man who evidently has put so much effort into his work has seemingly skipped a step and cut a whole bunch of corners. And cutting corners and putting out sub-par material is not Kanye‘s steez. He’s usually concerned with the quality of everything he puts his name on, which has led to 3 great solo albums, critical acclaim, and superstardom. But he’s clearly not on his A-game with this one. I need to listen to College Dropout, Late Registration, and Graduation in succession just to rid myself of the foul taste “Robocop” left.

Overall Score: 67/100

Standout Tracks:

“Heartless”

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“Street Lights”

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“Welcome to Heartbreak”

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Related posts:

  1. Review: Graduation
  2. Review: Late Registration
  3. Review: College Dropout
  4. Review: Finding Forever
  5. Graduation: Review

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  • http://www.myspace.com/natownlegend513 natown

    The album may be trash but, Heartless and Amazin’ are genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://cantstopfanatics.blogspot.com/ nofrillz

    that bad eh? aaaahh well. hopefully ye wil be back on his a game next go round. which may come sooner than we think if the majority of reviews are as scathing as yours. ive listened to it a few minutes ago. i won’t listening to it again

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  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    Funny enough frillz, there aren’t that many negative reviews floating around. Commercially, it is being loved.

  • Freddie C

    Deez, I noticed that too, we’re one of the few negative reviews out there. I think the New York Times trashed it, along with a couple other newspapers.

    And natown, I definitely agree that Heartless is pretty damn good. Easily my favorite song off the album

  • http://rap1masse.blogspot.com Isbjerg

    Im having a hard time completing the album, without skipping to next track.. I see the potential in some of the numbers such as “Robocop” and “heartless” but its like he took one strange idea and build an entire album on it.. I do like his stuff, but he’s testing me with this album which begs for an instrumental version.. THAT would be a great album..

  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    tough album to review, I’ll tell you that much

  • http://www.myspace.com/s2ita S.2

    Asinine? That was a bit harsh lol. When I first heard that this whole album was gonna be him singing with autotune my reaction was pretty much like everyone elses, thinking it was gonna be some gimmicky bs.
    But after listening to this album its everything but.

    I think its really really original. I think we should praise him for really pushing the boundaries, few people are doing that these days. How many other rappers/producers would have the balls to stray so far from the norm? Even if you don’t like it you have to give it to him for that.

    My fav track is definitely welcome to heartbreak. that track is f$@#!$ sick!

  • Jason

    haha RoboCop is in top 3-4 of tracks for me! i love the strings how that and Paranoid provide a good break in the middle of the album from the rest of the sombreness

    i didnt have high expectations for this album, but its surpassed all of them which has made the album very enjoyable for me

    and i think one thing people do fail to mention is although Ye does extensively use auto-tune, he does it at certain times of the the song to great affect, he doesnt smear it all over his singing like t-pain does

  • Thomas

    I hated “Love Lockdown” when it came out and didn’t listen to any of the tracks until about 2 weeks before the album dropped (all the internet leaks) and I can admit the album has grown on me.

    Really not feeling the use of the autotune, but its tolerable. “Heartless”, “Amazing”, “Say You Will”, and “Coldest Winter” are the better songs on the album. I can listen to it through without skipping. The tracks aren’t vintage Ye, but bump nevertheless. This album and Prodigy’s ‘Product of the 80′s has that “80′s” sound (kinda).

    ‘Graduation’ is still my favorite Ye album.

  • trapperjohnmd

    WACK

  • Mike

    Deez I think you were too generous with your review!! haha, I can only listen to about 20 seconds of any track except amazing without turning it off.

  • http://rap1masse.blogspot.com Isbjerg

    S2 – pushing the boundaries ? If it’s already done with autotune and even here in Denmark by an old group winning european music contest with a bad song.. Kanye has found a new love for it, and have decided to use it on a whole album, and he didnt bring it this time.. The beats are great with some highlights and some amazing parts, but the vocals doesn’t cut it.. He’s didnt do nothing else but pouring his heart out, and thats fine, but not sounding like a bad version of a bad T Pain.. I do find mr. West a great producer, but sometimes you should stick to your craft and not do these types of vocals…

  • Will

    Despite absolutely loving Street Lights and Welcome to Heartbreak, I have to admit, I’m struggling with this album a little bit. The autotune vocals were a nice ‘gimmick’ on Love Lockdown and Heartless, but a whole album?! By the end it’s wearing slightly thin for me. This doesn’t sit naturally with the previous 3 Kanye albums for me – but that may well have been his intention. In terms of critical response, I ask myself the question whether Kanye is almost immune from critical negativity due to his status, image and popularity – a bit like Eminem at the time of The Eminem Show for example. Just putting it out there…

  • http://www.myspace.com/s2ita S.2

    isbjerg. i just meant that even though he used autotune (a current fad) the album overall still came out very original due to the production, which isn’t really like anything else out there right now.

  • Mo

    I think we should all jus step back and let Ye do his thing,by far this isnt his best album,but it reflects where he is in his life right now.To me this is an experimental album,and we all know experiments dont always work.As much as i love college dropout it had some misses on it correct,then he turned it up on late registration.He may make a 808 pt.2 that blows this out the water,but i apreciate the his vulnerability on this project.I personally hope he departs from this auto-tune 808 nonsense and goes back to the school theme and drops good ass job,but i cant get mad at him for growing artistically.I mean really tell me you didnt see this album coming after hearing graduation his evoloution is so crazy this is the only direction he had to go in.

  • Preem

    I completely disagree with this whole review. Sorry boys.

  • Jordan Hendrix

    Wow sean you are a fucking douchebag reviewer. Do some research if you are going to try to do an album review. I know you think you are a hot shot now because you write for some joke internet blog, but hate to break it to you your just another middle eastern fuck up.

  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    so I love the fact that I have this guy’s IP Address, provider and a boat load of other Computer information that hackers everywhere get off to..

    We’ll see if he’ll be making anymore post there

    I love my fans

  • eA

    It’s hard to find immense good, but one thing I love about the album is the use of the African (tribal) drums to hold the beat…raw, simple & refreshing.

  • Tiredblkman

    i’m sorry but where is the soul, the real, like dmx said where the hood at? too many black artist are trying to be something they are not which is pop artist. just like Beyonce’s cd, it sounds like a Rhianna knock off. I was expecting some hot beats and introspective mic skills but got more T-pain ish garbage, funny thing is his cd sounds better than Ye’s because at least it has some soul to it. what our young artist don’t realize is that white people are forever wanting to be like cool like Black people so why try to be white, let your blackness shine and be true to your self. there are enough pop artist out there.

  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    “too many black artist are trying to be something they are not which is pop artist”

    wow

  • http://myspace.com/grizz1103 GF3

    i give it a two thumbs ehh…

  • http://myspace.com/grizz1103 GF3

    amazin is crack though. lol.

  • http://www.myspace.com/jfizzthenomads J Fizz

    i listened to this cd one time. I know your suppossed to give stuff a chance, but i’m just not interested. There is so much great music out there, that theres just no time in a busy shedule (like the one of j fizz’s) to be fuckin with mediocre autotuned stuff. Also i see your reviews praising him for having tribal drums. ….. IT aint that hard, its just the ts 808 drum machine he didnt get no african tribes to bring in their sheepskin drums or anything cool. The beats have some nice osunding synths, that he hired someone else to play on keys. I prefer live instrumentation man, guitars, saxophone ,organs,,,,, shit to jam to. At least with samples its takin instruments and also creatin new unheard sounds. I cant feel kanyes emotion cuz hes just selfish. How is he gonna bring in a listener when he just whines like a lil hoe? i just dled The impressions, changing impressions. goddamm that is ill. man the vocal harmonies are ridic, check it out yall itsl ike 43 years old but its dope.
    peace

  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    J fizz… when did we say anything about tribal drums? Your hate is extreme, but I can’t take you seriously if you haven’t given it more than one listen.

  • http://rap1masse.blogspot.com Isbjerg

    I did it… i heard the album from end to end and the results are..

    Say you will : The worst first track of all his albums.. The beat is some Amiga500 emotional synth for relaxing and the vocals are awful and too long..
    “Hey hey hey hey
    Don’t say you will
    You will you will
    Hey hey hey hey”

    Welcome to Heartbreak :
    “My friend showed me pictures of his kids
    And all I could show him was pictures of my cribs
    He said his daughter got a brand new report card
    And all I got was a brand new sports car”
    There is no excuse for poor writing – and the beat doesn’t really move me either..

    Heartless :
    At last a number that doesn’t suck that much – The chorus are a bit annoying but it have more appeal that the rest..

    Amazing : It’s getting better but the theme and the autotune are really getting on your nerves now, so it’s good to hear some actual rap by Young Jeezy this time..

    Love Lockdown : We all know the mixed feelings with this..

    Paranoid : The best way to describe this track is european music contest with synth and glampop written all over it..

    Robocop : The best beat on the album – I dig it a lot, but the vocals are really punching in on whole..

    Streetlights : Another bad track…He should have had Chris Martin on it instead..

    Bad News : Really bad track´with some bad ideas and bad vocals..

    Tell Everybody That You Know : Seriously, Ye and weezy together again – no thanx..

    Coldest Winter :
    “If spring can take the snow away
    (If spring can take the snow away)
    Can it melt away all of our mistakes
    (Can it melt away all of our mistakes)
    Memories made in the coldest winter
    Goodbye my friend I won’t ever love again”
    Do I need to say more about this – I am really amazed over his choice to release this…

    I cant find words to describe the standard of this album, but he can do better…

  • Preem

    I think this album went over some peoples heads…i.e: J Fizz….”Whining like a lil hoe”. The album is about…hold on…wait…HEARTBREAK! He lost his mother and his relationship went sour, this album was made for Kanye I believe, and not for the people.

    Apparently the album went of Isbjergs head too…Welcome To Heartbreak is a pretty easy song to grasp concept wise…hes comparing all the luxurious stuff he has to the stuff that hes missing in his life that actually means something…

  • ceelos

    He is in pain thats why this might seem like a boring album. He isnt dragging u down hes just crying in every song basically because thats how he feels.Life aint peachy right now for him. That may be boring but its as real as it gets.

  • http://rap1masse.blogspot.com Isbjerg

    Look.. I like Kanye too, but making a bad album, because you feel blue is a not an option.. There are plenty of rappers who flet the pain of losing someone, but still focused that energy into delievering a very great album..Sick Jacken got through some of his pain making the album with DJ Muggs, despite his brother not being well. Kanye should have made the album, but should have kept it to himself.. I dont care how real he is, when he’s not being at his standard.. And I dont care if I cant see it as exclusive art, but I can see when things aren’t right in my eyes, and when fans have to go an extra distance to defend the album, there’s something wrong.. I wish I could make everyone see that it isn’t that album we were waiting for, and I wish that someone could have stopped mr. West from releasing that. but used it for himseld as a therapy album.. I do really wish Kanye the best, and I am a fan of most of his earlier work but the album isn’t great, no matter how real he is..

  • Buda

    I’m struggling through this album at the moment for the first time and thought I’d come re-read this review to see if maybe it would help me appreciate some of the finer points that I maybe missed.

    Weak is the only word I can think of to describe this. I’ve alays respected Kanye as an innovator and one of the dopest producers out there. I feel sorry for him that he lost his mother but I feel sorry that he lost his game if this (and to a lesser degree Graduation) are where he’s going with his sound. Come back Ye, we miss you.

  • trapperjohnmd

    Simple and Plain, everyone has an opinion. In my opinion, it’s wack and it’s not re-inventing when he’s taking the new popularity of the autotune. I thought he was about being fresh and new and this is tired and stale

  • Xplane

    I look at it like this…
    Kanye West is dope we all know this, but if this album was a commercial release from a debut artist how do you think that it would be received?
    I believe that it would be seen as utter trash from a possible one hit wonder with ‘love lockdown’ as a single that could maybe embraced by the clubbing crowd.
    The fact that it has kanye’s name on it is its only savings grace… and even that is not enough to make me want to listen to this more than twice at maximum.

  • http://myspace.com/abstraktsoundz Abstrakt Soundz

    know what… i Actually Like this album. shits got a pretty dope message behind it. good shit kanye… i wasnt feelin the track wit geezy though… but overall i thought it was pretty good.

    but i can just imagine what he sounds like without the vocoder HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA… shits gotta be classic. lol

  • http://myspace.com/abstraktsoundz Abstrakt Soundz

    …and what tha f*ck are you talking about “TiredblkMan”? u sound like Uncle Raukus (no relations) over there… Music is music man… u either like it or u dont… none of that racist sh*t is necessary…

  • http://myspace.com/remotmusic Deez

    yeah, racism isn’t necessary, but me-thinks ’twas an alias

  • http://rap1masse.blogspot.com Isbjerg

    look my fellow producers and nottinghammers – lets end this comment section and hope for a review on Emeritus and Scarface fra Deez… Biggup for a great reviewer..

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    Wow, I just noticed all the comments on this post! Where have I been? Isbjerg, we should have a review on the new Scarface soon.

  • J

    I don’t understand. I do think it has been slipping since Late Registration, but I can still listen to anything Kanye puts out.

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