Charles Hamilton vs 9th Wonder

by Thomas on April 29, 2009

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Charles Hamilton dropped a track two weeks ago called “Bud Dwyer” and it used a familiar sample (Bobby Womack’s “And I Love Her”)  used by 9th Wonder.  I really am assuming that Charles produced this joint in light of the accusations of him stealing other peoples music (he address this issue somewhat on the track).  Nevertheless, lets see how he matches up with Mr. Douthit.

Who Flipped it Better?

Bobby Womack: “And I Love Her”
From the album Understanding (1972)

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Little Brother: “Speed”
From the album The Listening (2002)
Produced by 9th Wonder

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Charles Hamilton: “Bud Dwyer”
Single (2009)
Produced by Charles Hamilton

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  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    how are you gonna bring in the song that pretty much got me into Little Brother against this Hamilton track

    Charles is creative with production, but Speed just screams emotion to me

  • http://soundclick.com/danimalhiphopbeats Danimal

    lol i think the only beat charles “stole” was shining …mad sites say he was stealing peoples beatS ..but it was really only about that one track .. but any way i like how he flipped this one ..gives it a completely different emotion.. i cant really jude it tho cause the quality was horrible (idk if that was my comp) but that LB song is a classic soo its gonna be a tough one…

  • eric

    lets not forget CH also used another song that 9th sampled before.

    The Stylistics
    “one night affair”

    Little Brother
    “lovin’ it”

    Charles Hamilton
    “loser”

  • bryan

    black star also did a song with this sample called bright as the stars.

  • GOLDIE

    “Charles is creative with production, but Speed just screams emotion to me”

    I concur!

  • 999 Wonders

    9th

  • http://myspace.com/bdavisjr inspirmentalist

    i like the gritty sound that charles hamilton used but i still got to go with 9th, his production is so damn smooth!!!

  • Dr. MaD

    9th Wonder Easy.

  • Era

    after listenin to the 9th version i couldnt even try to listen to charles, on this one i say fucka charles hamilton

  • Thomas

    Sorry about the quality of the CH song. Not sure what is wrong…..the mp3 that I have isn’t distorted. I probably should leave the “scandel” that is “Shinin’” alone because it is just that one “track” that he took.

    Anyhoo…..9th on this one.

  • DC

    9th wonder killed it. Hands down.

  • Eddie Knucks

    Have to go with 9th….it flows much smoother.

  • http://malmoe88.blogspot.com malmoe

    9th Wonder’s is better but more work was put into charles Hamilton’s version. If someone else with better flow had rocked it, he might have won. But for real there are other people who used this, why not post their version. Showin mad love to CH huh?

  • http://www.myspace.com/banghardmusik banghardboy

    Shit everybody sampled this .. I did too. . .i never heard little brothers version . .so maybe he didnt either.. .but im riding with charles hamilton. .even thou i hate that kid

  • LP2

    French rap group NTM flipped this sample in 1998 for “Pose ton gun”, and sounds way better than both of them (even tho both 9th and CH versions sound tight)

  • http://www.myspace.com/killaremedy Mr. Mightygoodirdge

    yo as soon as i heard the beat from 9th wonder it made think of NTM

    NTM was hot as hell

    sad they had to stop doing there thing together

  • http://myspace.com/dah2l JL

    dont even compare the 2, and when i say dont compare the two I mean the songs AND the people making them. CH is maaaad overrated, he has a few decent beats/tracks, but hes really nothing special.
    let alone, speed is one of my favorite songs since forever

  • GUEVARA

    9th made this a classic for LB! hands down he won! check out the newest 9th Wonder beat for David Banner’s new single: “No Denyin’”

  • http://myspace.com/sttress1 S.T.T.R.E.S.S.

    I’m going with the hometown Wonder and his track was real moody.CH might have put more work into it, but it was messy.The vocal samples overpowered the lyrics.

  • Thomas

    When I downloaded the CH track LB came to mind. Nothing else. I don’t even know who ntm is.

  • http://www.myspace.com/killaremedy Mr. Mightygoodirdge

    yo thomas

    they are french rappers

    some pretty hot shit dude

    here is the video to pose ton gun

  • Sense 5

    9th Wonder hits this sample better from the way the beat comes in to the way it smoothes out. Hamilton is just too choppy..9th wins again.

  • http://www.mikerizzy.com Rizzy

    like you guys said the LB joint is a classic. you can always improve on something that’s been done before and i’m sure Charles heard “Speed” before he made this beat so the nod definitely goes to 9th because it’s better and it was original the way he flipped it.

  • FUHNAHTIK

    9th came through with a great beat using this sample, as were all the listening beats – CH is wack. What’s with the choppiness of the track? I just don’t see what has people into CH’s music, I’ve got most his newer material as far as mixtapes & he must be way out of my understanding or something, because he just coms across as wack.

    For the record, you might want to stop comparing 9th’s production to others, he is going to win every time.

  • http://www.lptrax.blogspot.com LPTrax

    I never listened to Little Brother as far as there albums a few songs here and there & 9th is nice. I like both of them. Charles flipped it & made it his own. 9th Got his grown man on.

  • N

    FUK THIS SHOULDN’T EVEN BE…. EVERYONE KNOWS B4 LISTEN 9TH WONDER FLIPED IT NICER… NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE FAMOUS SNARE BUT IT HAD MORE SOUL…. AND I BUMP THE LITTLE BROTHER JOINT ALL DAY SO FUCK CHARLES HAMILTON

  • http://www.myspace.com/ShaFunnyXL ShaFunnyXL

    @LP2 that version NTM sound like some MAd Lion Rip Off. Flow wise delivery wise, even the beat, from drums to the way the sample is filtered n shit sound like some shit off his early LPs not sayin its wack, but the 9th Wonder version shits all over that one. And I am one who thinks 9th is mad overrated so that way you dont assume im bashin cuz Im a 9th wonder superfan or sum shit.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ShaFunnyXL ShaFunnyXL

    @N lol at “the famous snare” lol. o so true. the best was after the album before the 2nd LB release how everyone (i think it was just khrysis lol) was like nah u gotta hear this album, 9th aint got the same snare on every trk so stop hatin this album dont got that.

    Im like wow so he just said it without blatantly sayin it. 9th flips samples dope but the rest can be lackluster at times.

  • Chace

    I like Charles for the mpc effort…however 9th crafetd a song with lb, Hamilton mad a ill beat and f*cked it up with an atrocious flow

  • Misery

    9TH definitely got this. Hamilton’s joint is a lil distracting

  • shahkeem

    this should have been 9th versus HiTek

  • http://myspace.com/soulfulmindzproduktionz soulfulmindzprod

    once charles put the hat in, he fucked up… I FUCKING LOVE 9th WONDER, but charles needs to take the hat out, but 9th definitely brought heat with little brother like usual….

  • http://savantrarebreed.bandcamp.com Savant

    9th took this one, but neither beat was particularly impressive. Hi-Tek BODIED this sample for the Black Star jawn “Bright As the Stars”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd-YM3rfRA

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