Eminem: Relapse

by Freddie C on May 18, 2009

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Five years ago was when we last heard an Eminem album (if you don’t count The Re-Up). Starting with his critically-panned Encore, Eminem went into a downward spiral that included the cancellation of the European leg of his Anger Management tour, his second divorce from the infamous Kim, and the tragic death of best friend and fellow D12 member, Proof. Eminem turned to sleeping pills to help him cope, and became addicted, making him a refugee from the spotlight and eventually led him to thoughts of suicide. But thanks to rehab, Eminem cleaned up and hit the studio with Dr. Dre to have a relapse with his favorite drug of all: hip-hop. With his new album Relapse, Eminem tackles familiar topics: drugs, addiction, celebrities, his mom, absurd violence, and some deeply personal stories. Is Eminem back? Hell yeah…

While the topics may not be fresh, it’s the Eminem that everyone clamored for when the silly Encore dropped. Relapse is something like a perfect storm of the many elements of Eminem: he brings the lyrical ability and complex rhyme schemes that he demonstrated on Infinite, the dark, maniacal serial-killer mentality of The Slim Shady LP, and the song-by-song structure of The Marshall Mathers LP. Add in some of the silliness and commerciality of Encore and you have Relapse.

The album kicks off with actor Dominic West (of The Wire fame) portraying a doctor that Eminem visits as he checks out of rehab. Dr. West proceeds to reveal himself as a manifestation of Slim Shady’s addiction, trying to get him to relapse. The intro is spot-on, as it seamlessly transitions into Eminem’s horrific realization that he’s a serial killer on “3am.” Right off the bat, Eminem is establishing that this album isn’t going to be some commercial hodge-podge that many feared Relapse would be, based off the lead singles. He comes out of the gate with bloody corpses and Silence of the Lambs references. He follows it up with the neck-breaking “My Mom,” a rather funny tribute to his much-maligned mother Debbie and her love of Valium and other painkillers, a habit that she passes down to him through putting it in his food, among other things. Debbie is an old topic, but the song’s too good and too funny to dismiss just because we’ve heard it before. Eminem’s impression of his mother is still as funny as ever.

Next up is “Insane,” a song that’s equal parts obscenely graphic and imaginative, and most definitely disturbing. Eminem addresses being sexually assaulted by his stepfather, and the descriptions are cringe-worthy. Dr. Dre puts the “Psycho”-esque strings to work to give the song a haunting feel that serves as the background and basis as to why Slim Shady is as crazy as he is. He follows with similarly-themed joints like “Medicine Ball,” “Stay Wide Awake,” and “Underground,” tracks that stay on the serial-killer vibe. It’s like he’s unleashed his Slim Shady persona to wreak havoc all over Relapse, something we haven’t seen him effectively do since the Marshall Mathers LP.

Eminem also embraces his human Marshall Mathers side in “Déjà Vu” and “Beautiful.” “Déjà Vu” documents his struggle with prescription drugs, and is the only song that mentions the death of Proof, and is presented as one of the reasons Eminem falls into substance abuse. Dr. Dre laces “Déjà Vu” perfectly, giving it the dark, somber mood appropriate for Eminem’s battle with his demons. “Beautiful” sounds like it was written knee-deep during his depression, as he struggles to handle the cards he’s been dealt. Eminem could have done without singing the hook, but the rest of the song is on point as Eminem evokes a powerful feeling of sadness throughout the song.

Dr. Dre also shows that he hasn’t fallen off the face of the earth, as the beats range from good to great. Dr. Dre crafted a very dark, eerie mood for this album that many producers can only dream of duplicating. This is Eminem’s best-produced album, and it serves as a shining example of how amazing the chemistry is between Slim Shady and the Doctor. If this is any indication of the quality of production that will appear on Before I Self-Destruct, Relapse 2, and Detox, then hip-hop is in for quite a treat.

The first four tracks (including the “Dr. West” intro) and subsequent songs that are loyal to the concept set a very high bar for the album, and also set a very dark mood. Eminem lapses in and out of this dark place, as “Bagpipes From Baghdad,” “Old Time’s Sake,” “Must Be the Ganja,” “We Made You,” and “Crack a Bottle” don’t follow the standout tracks’ subject matter. The songs aren’t bad, per say, but don’t particularly vibe with the overall theme of the album. As good as they are they take the listener out of Eminem’s twisted mind and the dark tone that dominates the album. This is perhaps the album’s greatest falter: that it doesn’t have that cohesiveness that the MMLP had with its flow and content. Despite the fact that much of the subject matter is familiar to Eminem listeners, it’s still excellently delivered. Even on these songs, Eminem demonstrates that his technique is still among the best in the game.

While many fans may ask why he’s rapping about some of the same things, many other fans will answer that this is the Eminem that they’ve been waiting for since Encore: the deranged drug-user known as Slim Shady, mixed with the vulnerability and humanity of Marshall Mathers. While he acknowledges those facets, he also manages to sneak in some of the flaws of Encore, bringing down the album. Eminem hasn’t totally relapsed into his Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers days, but he’s technically flawless and still has one hell of an imagination. Relapse 2 should be fine as long as he reproduces the high points on this album, where he evokes his earlier works and alter egos. If the non-relevant songs listed in this paragraph were axed and he stayed with his multiple-personality format, then Relapse would be knocking on the door of “classic” status.

85/100

“3am”

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  • http://sketchesofmysoul.blogspot.com Mr. Genius

    Excellent review, Freddie C. Hit every point. I’m one of the few that LOVES Relapse. I reviewed it and gave it a 5, based on the fact that it’s quite a cinematic and focused work. There weren’t any necessarily bad songs (imo) barring “Must Be The Ganja” and maybe the disturbing “Insane”.

  • J Fizz

    i thought the beats were bangin, flow was on point..

    reason why i cannot listen to this shit.

    His voicE! it got even higher and nasally and he has this really stupid accent on it most of the time it really killed the vibe for me. But i did love that medicine ball beat.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    And there it is… I’ve had a ton of people wondering about our stance on Relapse and I’m happy to say that Fred’s review covers this well. Though, I personally feel the bad tracks are REALLY bad and out of place. It probably would have brought my score down a little. But Em and Dre really show they are needed in hip hop today.

  • Pee Duble

    Damn, ya’ll gave Rick Ross basically the same score!!! Wow?? Rick Ross!!! LOL

  • http://www.baleedat.blogspot.com Toast

    Finally a decent review instead of the BS over at HHDX

  • trapperjohnmd

    Def. rated too high. Sub-par beats if you compare to Dre’s best/better ones. what happened to the Lose Yourself, I Am Eminem? Never been a big fan, but recognized his dope track(8 Mile is probably his dopest lyrically to me), but this is very dissapointing

  • Freddie C

    Thanks Mr. Genius! Great minds think alike

    J Fizz – I think people harp on him for his voice too much. It did absolutely nothing to change my listening experience.

    Kev – those songs weren’t THAT bad. They probably did belong on Encore though. I don’t mind Crack a Bottle or Old Time’s Sake though. Old Time’s Sake would seem at home on Detox, I feel

    Trapper – glad you mentioned the beats. as a Dr. Dre aficionado, the production on this album is basically like this: the sum of these beats is greater than its parts. Dr. Dre didn’t roll out a bunch of bangers. Instead, he used beats that set a mood, a really dark feel that is prevalent throughout the album that Eminem uses to his advantage. A LOT of producers try create this dark, haunting atmosphere, and fail. Dre took them to school on this one. The bangers you’re looking for are most likely on Detox *crosses fingers*

  • trapperjohnmd

    I wasn’t impressed by the beats. It’s cool to hear a couple of shock value joints, but where’s the hip hop in it.

  • Freddie C

    You weren’t feeling ANY of the beats? you’re a hard man to please (pause). Deja Vu and Insane are 2 GREAT beats, imo. And when you’re asking “where the hip-hop is” in something, that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms in and of itself

  • trapperjohnmd

    I like crack the bottle, Insane is cool, as well as De Ja Vu, but that’s only a portion of the 12+ he produced

  • ParadiseChild

    Great review!
    As for the album:
    Crack a bottle, we made you, old times sake, & beautiful … don’t cut it for me… i thought they were trash (highly skippable)
    Underground, & Insane were probably my favorites, but the rest of the album was all good…

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    here’s my joke with all of this

    people say they want the old Slim back.. well, here he is…

    then people? come on.. call a spade a spade.. i agree with this review entirely, although, I kinda like We MAde You

  • Wez

    I was Born and Bred it Detroit, Until moving away to puruse other intrests.
    I remember visiting venues like the hip hop shop to see Em, Proof and the rest of D12.
    Evreytime i hear Em , it takes me back to those days….. His flow and delivery was and still is unbelivable and in my Opinion, is pretty much second to none, When he dropped the Evil slim shady on us….it had a big effect….wether you like to admit it or not….This album is the Real Slim shady….and he takes it to amazing lengths….Not like T.I (whos alter ego status is pretty much embarassing). Eminem Still is the same as he was back in the 90′s at the Hip hop shop….same enthusiasim, same skill….but with more development. Alot of people Judge him on “The marshall Mathers Lp” or “Infinite” depending on your preffered era…..But If he dropped an Album the same as MMLP…ya’ll would be on here hating saying its just another MMLP. I Love this Album, Just as much as i loved MMLP or SSLP or Infinite. Em’s back people….and he brought the D and the Hip hop shop with it. Mad Love and Respect To EM……

  • Matt

    The only part of the album I can actually say I liked was the beats. I’m not a big Eminem fan so me not liking the album isn’t much of a surprise. I’d put this album in the mid-to-low 60′s.

  • http://www.soulsoundproduction.blogspot.com Rouh

    Humm… I think Em’ is lyrically outstanding, his technique is just remarquable, he is the only one who can spit like rakim with inner-line rhymes so to speak, meaning not just rhymes to complete the sentences but inside them as well and that is trully a performance. The beats are bangin’ no doubt even if sometimes I question Dre ability specially when the beat is co-produced (I mean Daz said it, then melle-man, then scott storch, that’s a lot of people,lol)
    but the main thing is : themes !
    I mean I can not appreciate a horror movie like a real classic, because it’s just entertaining, but there’s no knowledge, no wisdom, no vision, and therefore relapse can not last through time.
    Peace 1

  • Henry Gondorf

    hahaha. i used to listen to this shit when i was fucking 12. i could make a compelling argument that dr dre is the most overrated producer. dude doesn’t chop samples. i could teach my mom how to make the lil ghetto boy beat in 15 minutes. on eminem, like i said, when i was a rebellious 13, 14 year old, he was the shit. but now, as a grown man, how can you take this seriously? crack a bottle is a perfect example of a song you would listen to if you were at an 8th grade dance, or, i guess, just into that terrible type of hip hop. it’s especially discouraging when it’s those who consider themselves hip hop heads. hahhha…..eminem.

    ps: completely off subject, people who say eminem did a great acting job in 8 Mile, need to realize who his character was. HIS FUCKING SELF.

  • Matt

    Also, to Freddie C

    “Instead, he used beats that set a mood, a really dark feel that is prevalent throughout the album that Eminem uses to his advantage. A LOT of producers try create this dark, haunting atmosphere, and fail. Dre took them to school on this one.”

    I personally feel DJ Muggs has mastered the “dark” beats. Sure he has a few variances in his beats, but overall a lot of his material has that creepy and eerie feel to it.

    Here’s a few examples…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWq5m3AOgws
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H8W8MqbY2w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrypApesKD8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvnP-UCz1zI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBuWP2zGAOw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4gc8CEI-No
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSaCjPGPkyY
    Excellent example….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQPJUV3n6Ss

    I’m a BIG Muggs fan, I personally feel that he is one of the most underrated ever. Along with Kno and Ant.

  • http://www.soulsoundproduction.blogspot.com Rouh

    Alchemist is mastering it too…

  • Wez

    EMINEM….DR Dre…..Multi Million dollar contracts….

    Henry Gondorf…..Probably works at walmart…..

    haha. Thats funnier.

  • CBone

    Henry – Thanks for the amusing comment.

    I agree with Deez 100%. People were crying for the old Slim Shady to reappear, and now that they got him they just want to poke holes in the body of work. Make up your minds people.

  • AD

    85?¿ he’s talking all the time with that fucking voice, he’s seems like indian¡¡¡
    One of the worst eminem’s album, i hate bagpipes from bagdad, so badddd

  • AD

    are you kidding me?¿ best produced album?¿? remenber the eminem show

  • grady

    haven t u ppls noticed that the baritone is a flow enhancer ..it allows him to twist pronunciation and make illegal rhymes (words that don t really rhyme when pronounced properly)… certain specific tempo and register of dre beats call for it.. mnm isn t the only one doing the baritone change over dre s beat (chk katrina song on kingdome come) ..his is just more noticeable..so get over it already ppls

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    Wez, how does most of Detroit feel about Eminem? Does he get a lot of love in his home town?

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    The Eminem Show his best produced album? If memory serves me right, Eminem did a majority of production work there… no thanks.

    Dr. Dre took all of the beats on this album and I’m totally fine with that. I’m not even a huge Dr. Dre fan but after that West Coast week, my appreciation for him grew. I’m thoroughly impressed with his job on this one.

  • BC

    I agree in kind with Henry W. But Eminem is still the most lyrically gifted rapper ( Black thought where you at??? ) and Dre arguably the most consistent producer, i agree on the ALC comment though, i’d let him father my next son.. no homo.

    honest.

  • Freddie C

    Matt – excellent call on Muggs. I’m ashamed I didn’t even think about him. Tell me, what do you think about producer spotlight on him?

    http://kevinnottingham.com/2008/07/24/producer-spotlight-dj-muggs/

  • U.K

    bonus tracks are the best songs of the album. i dont understand why he put them as bonus tracks

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    the bonus tracks fit the scheme UK. I agree. They were great too

  • Matt

    Just posted in that producer spotlight, sorry to take away from the original discussion. Although I dislike most of the album, I’m a big fan of “Beautiful” and I kinda dig “Old Time’s Sake” (I think the joint would’ve been better for Detox but…) There are a few joints that I like but overall it’s not for me.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

    Its a good album….MMLP is probably his best to me. I guess time will tell with this album.

  • Wez

    I Dont live in Detroit anymore, but i was back there last year visitng Ma dukes….He gets mad Love from the Underground….Real heads you know? Not The commercial Hip hop lovers. I think he gets more props for what he did in the past. Not so much what hes doing now.

  • DJC

    I’ve seen you give a couple other people 85′s as well, and I would say that for them that would be acceptable, but not Em. This album had the same “movie-esqe” storytelling that people like Biggie made popular, and IMO deserves more than an 85, if nothing more than to put him on a different level than the other 85′s chillin on this website.

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  • TPB603

    you havee EM’S album and Rick Ross’ aka a (C.O.) album on the same level ……R U SERIOUS!

  • Lil Ish

    My favorite track on the album was actually “Underground” because it was more different and eerie than the other songs on the album.

  • GTP

    not tryin 2 hate… but GODDAMN! i’m listening 1st time right now, and cant imagine doing anything w/ this but throwing it in tha fn trash! this dude is a prime example of wasted talent, gotta hold his producers somewhat responsible for lettin this type of garbage slide. don’t get me wrong, technically dude got skills, but he aint gotta damn thang to say that’s worth my time! production is average at best, only reason i’m even taking this 3 minutes to write this is because i’m pissed about wasting the last hour of my life listening to this slop, an if i’d have actually paid a nickel for this trash i’d be on some serial killa shit myself. NOT HIP HOP. props on tha video tho, i laughed my ass off, slim should stick to comedy. overall, dude got problems, kinda feel sorry for him. music is still worthless tho. IF katz really feel like this record saved hip hop….. better guard your children from sickos like this poor bastard, cuz a whole generation of youth think this shit is cool (an i grew up on geto boys!). bottom line is… dude needs help, and i hope he gets it for the sake of his kids (and everyone elses) sorry fans, jus being real.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    Don’t take the ratings as they are…

    I mean an 85 from one writer might be an 82 for another. One thing about K Nots writing scheme is that we don’t limit to how someone rates. They could each have their own different palate.

    Regardless, because this album and another album have the same rating, doesn’t mean they are the same level of dopeness.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mrgriff711 Nathan Alexander

    I gotta say this. I am a big fan of the last three albums Em made, but relapse is nothing but poop.
    The hottest track on the album is the first track…AND ITS A SKIT!!!!!
    My man GTP said it best when he told me he must not have any friends around him cuz friends don’t let friends put out garbage. From begginning to end this album is very weak, even by today’s radio hip hop standards. I’d rather listen to country music than almost any track on this album. AND I CAN’T STAND COUNTRY MUSIC!!!
    LYRICAL CONTENT is something this album is void of. Who the F would think of writing a track about getting raped by your step dad? Seriously? This album could kill hip hop. If people were waiting on Em to save it, keep waiting. He needs to save himself first. His structure is tight but when you mix a tight rap structure with poop, YOU STILL HAVE POOP!!! Only now you have the runs cuz it gets smeared all over the inside of your cd player.
    One thing you gotta look at is when Proof died. I feel that if Proof was still around today, this album woulda never happened. Proof woulda smacked Em for trying to put this shit out. I’m surprised Bizzare wasn’t featured on any tracks as crazy as this album is. And you wonder why NOBODY ELSE was featured on this album??? Nobody would touch this with a ten foot pole, nobody from D12, not even on a skit. I hope Em checks himself into lyrical rehab.
    You know your album is poop when a skilt is one of the hottest joints on there…
    The production was at best average. I hope he didn’t pay too much for the beats. Any way, that’s how I feel about the latest from Eminem. Like he said in Beautiful, he might be done with rap and if this is what he thinks is album worthy, I think he needs to throw in the towel. What I really think he needs is motivation and inspiration. This album should be the motivation he needs to get back in the lab and write some ill shit like I know he’s capable of. The inspiration is coming. TRUST ME…its coming.

    It’s ya boy N.A. and you know its the truth!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/bassbeatsproduction Lil’ Ish

    I don’t think me and Nathan where listening to the same album.

  • Thomas

    This is the love/hate album of 2009 for now. As I said in the other post comment 13 this is an album that can’t be pushed onto anyone. People aren’t on the fence with this one. Around the internets

  • http://www.myspace.com/mrgriff711 Nathan Alexander

    Nah, we listenin to the same album Lil’ Ish. But I don’t think you were listening.

    So you can put this album up to any other album he’s done and say this is his best work? If this were his first album it wouldn’t even get published and he would have been dropped from his label!!!

    I’m sayin, this album is not HIP HOP…it’s SHIT HOP.

    I’m nominating EMINEM: RELAPSE for the BEST WORST MOST ANTICIPATED ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!! Who’s with me? hahaha. You need to go back to the late 80′s and 90′s and listen to just about every album that came out and that is what hip hop is. Not this Bull Shit you hear on the radio today. You just a youngin and I know you think this album is where its at, but I’m bein honest. This joint is trash…

    N.A.

  • GTP

    I second that nod N.A., SHIT HOP! HAHAHA

  • http://www.myspace.com/bassbeatsproduction Lil’ Ish

    Nathan:
    I listened to this album twice. I think it is better than The Eminem Show, and Encore in my opinion. did you even read the review? Read this http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/05/23/eminem%E2%80%99s-relapse-would-people-complain-if-nas-channeled-illmatic/

    Are you telling me his wordplay on the album was not hip hop? the detailed storytelling? the emotion? all that was not hip hop. 3.A.M, Beautiful, Deja Vu, Underground, Stay Wide Awake, Insane, and Same Song & Dance? Those were eminem songs to the FULLEST! Were actually surprised that he talked about getting raped by his dad on insane? seriously? You must not know shit about Em because i was waiting for him to say something like that.

    And get the fuck outta here with that youngin’ shit. I know more hip hop that most “Hip Hop Heads”. I hate it when people say that shit.

    At the end of the day, it is all opinion and to me i think you were on crack cocaine when you listened to this album because this is album is Phenomenal.

  • http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/MRGRIFF711 Nathan Alexander

    See, that’s what you get when you channel an album directly to kids, they catch feelins when someone goes against it and they throw a temper tantrum. That’s what Lil Ish is doing right now…he’s on the ground kicking and screaming about me sayin this album ain’t shit. If your opinion is that this album is phenomenal, that’s your opinion. But fact is, if this were his first album it would get NO PLAY!!! Em ain’t sayin shit on this album homie…unless you think opening up umbrellas inside of a girls pussy is hot shit. I’ll give you this. Beautiful is the best track on this album. I could listen to that track a few times a day and be ok with it. Anything else after that is pushin it.

    3 AM-didn’t say shit on it
    Deja Vu-killin a girl, didn’t say shit on it
    Underground-best line was about cuttin someones head off and asking where they headed, other than that, didn’t say shit
    Stay wide awake-killing more girls, didn’t say shit
    Insane-he got malested when he was younger and might be gay today, still didn’t say shit
    Same Song and Dance-Do I really need to continue?
    MOST ALL OF HIS HOOKS ARE POOP!!! WHY YOU THINK NOBODY ELSE WAS FEATURED ON THIS JOINT? NOBODY WANTED TO BE ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Maybe I came across wrong with the youngin comment, but have you gone back to the late 80′s early 90′s and listened? If you have, how can u say this album is HOT!!? That’s what I’m sayin.

    And with the last comment you made about the crack cocaine…only thing I smoke is weed and I’m glad I didn’t blaze an ill to this album, cuz if I did, I would a said much MUCH worse.

    Why you catchin so many feelins about this anyway? You act like it’s your album. That’s what I’m sayin, THESE YOUNGINS CATCHIN FEELINS OVER SHIT THEY DIDN’T EVEN DO…

    GET HIS NUTS OFF YA TONSILZ!!! MAYBE THAT’S WHY YOU LIKE THIS TRASH ANYWAY…

    FUCK IT I’M DONE AND I AIN’T SAYIN SHIT ELSE ABOUT IT, THE ALBUM IS POOP…I’M OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Lil Ish

    Tantrums? You are the one with Caps Lock on practically every sentence.

    I’m 16 actually so I am not really a kid. lol
    Anyway, the way I view Hip Hop is that it is not about what you say but how you say it. Whether it is with metaphors, wordplay, or storytelling.

    3.AM: He played the character of Slim Shady whose inspiration is based on serial killers. Wasn’t the 3AM a story? Did you hear the wordplay on that song? “You’re walking down a horror corridor/It’s almost 4 in the morning
    And you’re in a/Nightmare
    It’s HORRIBLE/Right there’s the coroner/Waiting for you
    To turn the corner
    So he can corner ya/Your a goner/He’s ona ya/Out the corner of his cornea”. That was not wordplay or art for that matter?

    Déjà Vu: You definitely did not listen to this song. First Verse: How he was taking drugs and he became and how it scared the people around him. Second Verse: His temptation of taking more drugs and taking alcohol. Third Verse: Tells a story as a metaphor of how much the Vicodin took over his mental state. I don’t know where you got the idea of him killing a girl.

    Underground: Another Slim Shady Track. Self Explanatory.

    I could go on all day. The comment about the album being channeled to kids makes no sense. First of all. He mostly talked about his experience during his relapse. Second of All, why would a kid want to know about Vicodin, Relapse, being molested by his father, killing girls? Why the fuck would a kid want to know about all that shit? Lastly the only song that is channeled to kids is we made you and I hate that song.

    Seriously, you’re the one you has tantrums with your caps lock you even said I’m Out with caps lock.
    And by the way, I though blackout 2 was better.

  • http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/MRGRIFF711 Nathan Alexander

    Thank you for the last comment, @least we agree on something…

  • GTP

    I can only speak from the reactions that i have personally witnessed, but it seems to me that slim lost a whole lotta decade-long fans w/ this one (i’ve never been a fan, so he didn’t lose me), i have yet to meet anyone of legal age who digs this record, so his market seems to be 12- 17 yr. olds, much like most commercial hip hop today. (aint seen no grown folks doin tha stinky leg yet) yeah, shock rap got him in tha game, but if he were wise he’d take cues from Scarface (who was probably the first to pull off tha shock rap thang). Scarface’s music evolved and his fanbase grew as a result. Slim’s music has digressed, and it seems even long time supporters can’t get w/ him anymore. He had a “one shot” opportunity (because of his name & tha hype surrounding him) to stamp his name in hip hop history as a legend, instead he got Borat’s ball in his mouth and got his “chance to blow”!

  • The Question Remains?

    all he was hype. stop it already.

  • Freddie C

    LOL wow a lot of strong feelings in here. Fuck what ya heard, Deja Vu might be my favorite track of the year so far. People talking about “listen to the old stuff, that’s REAL hip-hop”. News flash: It’s no longer 1994. “Real Hip-Hop” as a label is a sham. Who’s to say what’s “real?” “Deja Vu” is REAL to a drug addict. “Old Times Sake” is REAL to a stoner. “3am” might be real to a serial killer lol. Not all hip-hop is meant to be played in the car, on the corner, or spoken word at the coffee shop (I’m kickin some Trick Daddy at poetry night. “My black queen… DON’T KNOW NA’AN!!”)

  • ASID

    lol……sum dude wanted to kno why there aint joints on the album..lemme tell u sumthin…nybodyyyy…..yes..anybody in the music industry today wont say no to eminem…rappers like wayne and ross r an xample….Relapse…aka..instant classic…..lol….evrythin shady has made is a classic…..how does he do it…..ppl don like encore..but i loved it…..xcept a few songs…it was really gud..mockingbird..yellow brick road….toy soldiers…crazy in love…nywyz…shady fans..mail me…asid12345678@gmail.com

  • http://www.afmreloaded.com ocean

    Shout out to GTP for your stance. Where is the evolution in this cat? Of course we want that good ol rap but the fact that dude is still making tracks about his Mom and has lost a step or 2 lyrically is disappointing. Unquestionably, he’s one of the best tactically to ever spit but his content is nonsense and any grown ass man is ready to shut that sh*t off after one listen. Dre better have some better beats lined up for Detox too because honestly this disc does not really consist of a lot of bangers. I will admit that the disc is well put together thematically and is better than encore but dude gotta ascend to new heights. Get rid of that goofy ass accent he tries to rap with all the time and get back to that real!

  • http://www.myspace.com/mrgriff711 Nathan Alexander

    Yeah, now everybody knows why I said this album is marketed for the kids…any grown up listens to this album, it goes right into the trash or gets put back in it’s case and is never heard again, it’s just not a worthy try. And I tell you what else…he might have put his flows together tight, but when you put WEAK LYRICS with tight flows, it don’t matter how tight it is…IT’S STILL TRASH!!! @least you let ‘em know GTP, and I don’t even think Jay-Z could come back from getting nuts and ass on his chin. I doubt Em will either…haha. And if anybody knows if Em commented on gettin 69′d by Bruno, PLEASE let me know where I could read it…I just wanna see what he had to say about it. How did he not punch that dude in the face after he put his ass in his? I just don’t get it…

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas
  • folabs

    I really don’t understand how people find this album trash. I find it very preposterous. I mean “My Mom” is not like the other songs that talk about his mom. See Em was able to experience the same situation that his mom endured when he was a kid and he now understands the hardship. Yeah there were a few tracks that did not need to be there but what about the other ones, Underground? déjà vu? 3AM? Same Song and Dance? Medicine Ball? Beautiful? Those tracks are art to me

    Nathan, I’m an adult and I understand the concept and themes that Em put in most of the songs and I don’t find the album trash so don’t think you are speaking for adults around the world.

    Also, some of y’all are like “Relapse was so bad, bagpipes from Bagdad was so bad”. Are you serious? You’re calling the album bad because of one song? Just leave. And the accent is the lamest excuse to hate this album. I mean he barely uses the accent so I don’t know why you guys are complaining. And two. he used it on the useless tracks except for 3AM but it only made it more scary.

    Really it has been killing for the past week or so and I don’t understand it. Fuck I don’t care anymore. Y’all are just hard to please

  • http://www.myspace,com/mrgriff71177 nathan Alexander

    All I’m sayin is, if you look at the album sales and see the average age of people who bought this album and who are actually listening to it, I bet it wouldn’t be older than 19, and that’s only because these kids had to get there parents to buy it for them. If people think there are more than 2 or 3 decent tracks on this album, all I gotta say is…nothing. You can’t argue with people who think opening up an umbrella inside of a female is a hot lyric.

    All I’m gonna say is if people wanna call this album the best hip hop album of the year, Hip Hop itself is in trouble. To each his own, but I’m just glad this ain’t gettin play in my area so I don’t have to hear it on the radio. I guess you don’t know what you have till hip hop’s gone…

  • U.K

    its not the best hip-hop album of the year buh its not bad like ur sayin it is… its a good album buh we all no he can do better…..Whats the best album of the year?

  • http://www.afmreloaded.com ocean

    1st 2 albums are Em’s best. No accent at all. Dude is a white cat from Detroit! There shouldn’t be an accent on any song! And he does that sh*t on same song and dance, bagpipes from baghdad, 3am, and My Mom at the end with autotune!!!! DOA man! Not to mention that insane track with the wackiest subject matter ever. Who the hell is rolling down the street bumping music talking about sodomy!!! And speaking of sodomy, didn’t Em seem pretty comfortable with Bruno’s ass in his face!!!! You can’t be serious about this guy being the truth at this point. He broke barriers and established himself as one the greatest to ever do it but he’s not that person today.His punchlines are now like weak jabs in a jr.boxing match. This album is merely ok at best and not worth being implemented into regular rotation.

  • MrMann

    Eminem “Relapse”?
    My opinion, it’s just ‘ok’ and that’s only because I’m a horror movie buff and the music and sonic landscape was great. But, Nathan is right in his review. Dre was once my favorite producer. Now, he’s long gone from being the “best” BUT, he did do a great job.

    But, hey, Eminem will sell records for the reason HE has stated, because he’s WHITE. He has some skill but he’s NOT the “most gifted rapper”, BC, that was just dumb.. NO Black rapper would sell records talking about this mess Em does because White people don’t want to hear that from them, EVEN THOUGH, they complain about the subject matter while supporting the career of a White rapper on EVERY album, speaks of the same sick acts for 6 albums and these “reviews” -Black and White… kiss his ass.. everyone from XXL, AlmusicGuide, Rolling Stone, Vibe, and even the person who wrote the review on THIS page..gives Eminem such hight marks while Black rappers get lower ones. The BAD THing is.. it’s rappers that would CRUSH Eminem. Canibus, being one of them who owns him but, the politics of the worlds’ psyche has always been biased toward Whites. Anyone could see it if they just pay attention to media coverage of ANY kind dealing with Whites vs other races. No “race card” comment, it’s just a fact if you’re smart enough to pay attention to your movies, music, tv, and any other outlet.

    Wez, your comment about Henry Gondorf is assenine. Eminem and Dr Dre worked like anyone else before their ‘break’ so, you could have just hid your stupidity better. I mean.. Eminem second to none???? T.I. embarassing???? Yeah, you’re G O N E.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

    Man these comments are getting out of hand. What I will say is I tired listening to his earlier this week and couldn’t make it through the first 6-7 tracks. Reply value is low for me. It was really good first 2 1/2 wks listening to it, but now not so much.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    Thomas

    I haven’t stopped listening to it. It’s my car album, its my at home album. I can’t stop listening to it and appreciating it more and more..

  • Freddie C

    Replay value is VERY high for me as well. I can’t get enough of Deja Vu

  • Freddie C

    Obviously, cuz Eminem’s white, I gave it a high score. C’mon MrMann. Seriously.

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