Jay-Z: New Blueprint 3 Freestyle

i told ya’ll jay gonna be 60 and still the best and hardest MC to date.

Lol @ his cult oohing and awwing at his corny and simple lines. He was better off retiring on top with “The Black Album”.

Dude, come on, The Blueprint > The Black Album. Also, The Blueprint 2 was almost garbage, a random bag of tracks that never all belonged on the same album, and an hour too long.

You see the last comment left by Charity lets me know that you niggaz just listen to the beats and production of the song…Yall cats arent actually listening to Jay. From Reasonable doubt to American Gangsta there is nothin but growth in Jay. Jay said it best…when he made all those club song everybody in the world labeled him the greastest MC…but when he made Kingdom Come and American Gangsta, which actually made you think about what he was saying cats started talking about “oh jay falling off he should have stayed retired. But if you listen to reasonable doubt then you fast forward to Kindom come and American Gangsta…Same type of lyrical content. Reasonable doubt was thought provoking as was Kingdom come and American Gangsta. Although Blueprint 2 showcased a lot of producer the lyrical content that jay came with was bar none. If you aint feeling Jay there is only one reason…you are Soulja Boy…and what I mean is you dont understand what he is saying. Before you guys talk about Jay falling off or any great rapper is falling off actually listen to what they are saying and try to comprehend…cause maybe just maby you dont like him cause his shit goes over your head and you just can relate to what he saying

@NIco Primo
I listen to the Production AS WELL AS the Lyrical content of the music, and I can honestly say that the only 2 times Jay has really impressed me in that aspect was Reasonable doubt and The Black Album. Jay will never top The Black Album (lyrically) even though the production wasn’t as strong as The Blueprint (which by far was his best album Production-wise). I think the problem with him has been that He’s crowned as the best no matter what he does.
I mean the nigga said this on a song: “I got a hunny bun, nah for real I got a hunny but, Millions I got a hunnit them” and nobody said anything to him about how wack that was.
Jay could say a Solja Boy rap and niggas would crown it the best thing since sliced bread. I think that’s bullshit. I mean I like a lot of Jay’s music but people need to stop rating him as the best rapper to ever drop an album, or the best album of the century every time, when you got Talib Kweli (who’s definitely a better lyricist), Rakim (way better in his time than Jay-Z will ever be), and a lot of others who are honestly lyrically superior to Jay.

@Nico I listen to Jay, and I get your point about the growth of lyricism, and I agree, but production still creates problems. I’m a Nas stan and I could listen to Nas rhyme all day, but when he drives his lyrics into a batch of questionable beats (most recently and thoroughly, Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled) it detracts from his music.

But, it’s pretty intellectually dishonest to assume that if anyone doesn’t like an artists direction on any particular track or album, it must simply be because they don’t understand what he’s saying. I think Jay shines lyrically over much of Blueprint 2 but I’m look at the album as a whole, cohesive body of work. It simply doesn’t hold together. The tracks — lyrically, production-wise, whatever — don’t really belong on an album together. The album simply fails to maintain any sense of theme or singularity whatsoever; it’s essentially a singles compilation and showcase.

Like, I honestly don’t understand how Hovi Baby, Poppin’ Tags, Meet The Parents, As One, A Dream and F*ck All Nite ended up on an album together. I really don’t. Unless Kanye, Just Blaze, and the Neptunes ended up in some sort of Mexican standoff in the studio where they refused to take any of their respective tracks off the album and Jay was just like, “fuck it.”

Jay-Z is a clown to me. He openly admits to dumbing down his music to make money. I don’t know why you’re bringing these other people into the discussion, but since you did… Eminem = 0 Classics just like that “nigga” jigga.

Ice Cube and Redman are better than Jay-Z and Eminem… just to get that out there.

BA > RD > BP

IMO you’re what’s wrong with hip-hop. CLOWNS like Jay admit to whoring themself off to make money and the fans still ride him like a mule. I don’t even hate Jay-Z , I just think he’s severely overrated and it’s disgusting to me to see his lame ass “freestyles” and songs still getting this kind of praise. There’s no point in arguing this though, I’m still not going to be a big Jay-Z fan and you will be so…

MMLP is not a classic… Eminem is one of the best rappers ever, but his subject matter is terrible. Relapse is a great example of this. It’s obvious Eminem can write extremely well but I don’t want to hear about you getting raped by your stepdad or some bullshit story about your mom giving you meds. “Beautiful” was the only good song on that album, but I enjoy the “serious” Eminem. I think “Stan” and “The Way I Am” are some of the greatest hip-hop songs ever made.

Co Sign Charity, you serioius? I know taste, opinion and all that whatever, but you cant make statmenents like that and not expect criticism. Is the ish on RD goin over your head? Im not gonna lie, Black album is a notch or so below RD and Blueprint, but them two are undisputed classics. They are among the greatest hip hop releases.

Subject matter quality is subjective for one. Secondly, if your a hip hop fan surely you must appreciate execution over a “varied” subject matter. Otherwise you wouldnt prefer Redman to Jigga.

And individuals dont determine a classic, general consensus does. And generally, the public consider MMLP a classic. Case closed, you might not like it but that ish is true.

I’ve always been a Jay-Z hater, but I’ve opened up to his work as of late. BP2 was not a classic, but his flow on that album argueably changed the game. It was sort of the birth to this whole swagg rap that’s going on right now. I agree that he is not the best rapper ever and I definitely don’t go checking for every song, freestyle, or show that he does. But what he has done, along with Nas(when he was a lot better with his choice of beats), Biggie, and Pac was elevate the rap game to a higher level. As much of a hater that I am, I gotta give him his props. In my opinion, subject matter or not, Redman > Jay-Z > Eminem. Just to throw it out there, if Big L never got popped, would we be really talking bout Jay?? I don’t think so. “It’s just my thoughts people, just my thoughts”