Lil Fame of M.O.P responds to “Beat Jacking Allegations”

by Thomas on September 12, 2009

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The controversy surrounding the allegations of Lil Fame aka Fizzy Womack were at a fever pitch the last day or so.  We discussed the issue on Thursday that seen an outcry from fans regarding the alleged jack.

Well, Fame issued a response to the allegations.  Hit the cut for his via DJ Premier Blog (fan site)

Fizzy left the following message:
Shit happens bro. Tag your beat next time, i just happened to have that record, and did the shit up myself! Your version was way too LQ for us to even use it and trust me nigga, your drums are not rare. i got drums out the woodwork, but thank you for finding the right tuned snare for this sample. It’s not your beat anymore nigga, i re-created (as you did as well) with the same record, so LiL FaMe is the one claim!!! Don’t take it there either, we known to mash out. You know you love that song nigga. Stop crying and figure out your next move. PREEM is NOT riding with blog. Get off his balls.

Brownsvillain.

Wow!?!  Well, I think we know the answer.

Let us know your thoughts.  If you want additional conversation hit up the boards at Okayplayer.com.

Picture is watermarked, but I can’t make it out…props to whomever took the picture.

Editor’s Note: This response may or may not be official as we can not verify that it was indeed Lil Fame that left the comment on the DJ Premier Fan Site. We are still waiting to get a more direct “official” response from Fame.

Update from Kevin: I have recently been in contact with someone close to Lil Fame and they claim that the above statement is fake and did not come from Fame. Fame wants to address this issue and release a formal statement. We will get that to you once he sends it.

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  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    That pic is so fucking perfect!! lmfao

    But we’re gonna follow this up with a full article from our legal representative, Pedro, on how producers can avoid this from happening to them and what to do if it does happen.

  • http://www.myspace.com/eon22 jubei208

    WOW. He said something that stuck with me, becuase my cousin entered some beats for the remix contest for tanya Morgan and Brown Bag AlStars last month. And we were talking about people jacking it, so I mentioned what lil Fame just said. “Tag your beat.” It’s so important, but that sucks too.

  • Tenth

    Fuck you, Lil Fame.
    M.O.P. should really fuck off.
    Fame didn’t even do that shit again, he just looped that shit. Because in the end of the day, Fizzy’s production skills are so lousy, he’s nowhere even close that he could have done it.
    Hope someone blows this nigga’s brains off.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    I agree… I don’t think Fame redid the beat. It’s a straight jack.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

    *note: to self….don’t say “why is this person tagging his track in a beat contest”* any longer during our contest.

    I wonder how this will affect their sales next week?

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

    “Hope someone blows this nigga’s brains off.”

    ^^^
    That’s a little much don’t you think?

  • http://www.myspace.com/mindalteringdynamics Emay

    I’m dissappointed that Fame would respond in such a way, but I can tell it was a remake actually. The snares on Fame’s version are more crisp and have more hi’s. The tempo is also slightly faster. Of course somebody can speed it up, but that doesn’t explain different snares. If he DID steal them, we don’t know really. But it’s dissappointing.. word.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    Good ear Emay… I’ll have to relisten.

    Yeah, ditto to all that Thomas.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mindalteringdynamics Emay

    Clearly the sequencing is the same, but when it comes to mixing, and the drums, I hear a difference. Maybe it’s just me, I don’t know, but I hear it. haha.

  • Tenth

    Thomas, you’re right. I apologize that. I was so angry at the moment, you know.

    Emay, I think it’s the mastering that makes the beat sound more crisp.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mindalteringdynamics Emay

    yeah, you could be right. could simply be better mastering. i’d be pretty mad if that happened to me though, word. we can’t really accuse Fame with 100% certainty, but it is the easier way to go in this sort of situation.

  • http://bikeandamic.net jobu

    Hip Hop is a business…. that is the major problem with the “little guys”…. they forget/don’t know/or are unaware how this game is played……that’s why there’s PAY TO PLAY venues….Let us observe and think first before we allow our emotions to gain control of our actions…….one point equals 7 cents, and new artists start at about 6-8 points per unit — average 49 cents per album…….do the math beforehand – you’ll sound like the guy who Chose not to bring his gun to a fire fight and then get angrywhen they get shot…. wisen up bredrens then We go to War ……We need control but it only comes with know-ledge…..one jobu

  • http://www.myspace.com/mindalteringdynamics Emay

    @jebo

    I don’t think the situation has to be that overexagerated. lol. It’s either theft, or a remake. :P

  • http://www.iigunzent.com DJTommyIIGunz

    You kno, I was an MOP fan but I know they’ve jacked more beats than this.
    And even if the beat was “remade” (which it probably was just because of the Mixing) he still Jacked the whole Joint! I just had the same thing happen to me with Slim Thug’s new record and It’s happened to me with alot of other records I’ve done over the last 5 years. So I feel the cat’s pain completely.
    But It’s even worse when you have a song that you actually did with the artist and they decide after it’s done they don’t wanna pay your price then they go get the neighborhood beat jacker to recreate the beat for $250. That’s what’s happened to me most! It really makes you wanna hurt a nigga for real!
    So to all producers on this site, if you learn nothing else from this post, learn this:
    When a rapper says, “Can You Remake This Beat For Me?”
    Respond with “No”
    Because if you do that shit to the wrong producer I…. I mean HE will fuck you up. Seriously

  • http://twitter.com/smallpro smallpro

    still dont think that’s lil fame…

  • http://www.myspace.com/njinbeats N-Jin

    if he really wrote that he is an arrogant bastard. he used exactly the same beat, i’m sure he didnt re-create it and he added a few sounds and improved the mix.
    the moral of the story: support illegal downloads of the m.o.p. album haha

  • http://www.twitter.com/djremike DJReMike

    i no longer support M.O.P. or Lil Fames muisc. straight up.

  • http://www.myspace.com/psymunsays Psymun

    damn you always hope your heroes aren’t asshole

  • http://www.myspace.com/cyclopscaliberx Cyclops

    I’d be pretty surprised if that was him who left the message

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Justin

    I’d like to hear a legit response, a comments section post is not that imo.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Sean Deez

    well, now we gotta wait to see if this really was fame making the comments

    so much waiting
    so much hating

    man this sucks

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    I’ve been in touch with someone close to Fame today. I’m waiting for a response.

  • http://myspace.com/theproblemaddicts VORHEEZ OF THE PROBLEMADDICTS

    We used that vocal sample on our first album, The First Step, on a track with Masta ACE.
    That was in 2006… 2 years before dude gave him the beat CD.
    Learn about it

  • otis b driftwood

    fame your production skills are wack . your just a premo jackin tramp that needs to learn some fuckin manners. You RUDE BASTARD!!! kidnap that fool

  • http://www.soundclick.com/rb07 Jon Dough

    That’s lame. I believe that Fame just EQd the beat. If Fame has access to a some good software or hardware, it would be easy to remaster that beat to the level he needed. Lesson: Always tag your beats. Always.
    Same shit happened to Apex Productions for the “I get Money” beat, only it was another producer that jacked him and sold it to 50:

  • Mr. Copyright

    In the words of the US Copyright Office:

    “Under the present copyright law, which became effective Jan. 1, 1978,
    a work is automatically protected by copyright when it is created. A
    work is created when it is “fixed” in a copy or phonorecord for the
    first time. Neither registration in the Copyright Office nor
    publication is required for copyright protection under the present
    law”

    Check it out:
    http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ50.pdf

  • http://myspace.com/sttress1 S.T.T.R.E.S.S.

    Trust me, with the right program and a knoledgable person on it,u can jack a beat and improve or manipulate parts of a beat.I’ve had that done to a beat of mine before.But in this case,wont shit really done to that beat differently.Best case, he sped the track up and EQed the snares in the beat.Jacking is fucking jacking,no matter how u look at it.Thats real HOMO!

  • Mr. Truth

    Even if he did “re-create” it, he admitted flipping it the EXACT SAME WAY! I think him writing: “Tag your beat next time” is an obvious admittance of stealing that shit. Pretty bad when I well known producer has to take shit from someone up and coming. Can’t you think of ideas yourself?

    For the snares: he either EQ-ed it, through it through some mastering plugins, or layered another snare on top.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Thomas

    Still waiting on a response from Fame if this is him or not. Disclaimer at bottom of post.

  • http://kevinnottingham.com Kevin

    Latest Update:

    I have recently been in contact with someone close to Lil Fame and they claim that the above statement is fake and did not come from Fame. Fame wants to address this issue and release a formal statement. We will get that to you once he sends it.

  • http://www.dividedsoulsent.com Chris (Divided Souls Ent)

    There are many issues here. For starters:

    1) Sample based production is hard to enforce a copyright because it is someone else’s work to begin with already and most likely the sample wasn’t cleared.
    2) If you take this to court, most likely the publishing company would or could get involved and that will stir up a WHOLE bunch of legal issues that no one thought of prior.
    3) In the words of Guru, “you can’t own no loop.” PERIOD It doesn’t matter how it was “hooked up” or the “rhyme style, troop.” If the loop is recognizable, you potentially will inspire someone else to hook it up and possibly the same way. Chopping it up and customizing is one way to help prevent that.
    4) Tags are a mixed blessing. They can “protect” you to an extent, but sometimes they just annoy the artists (A&Rs have told me to keep the tags off) much like tag songs annoy us, the listener.

    I feel for dude. I send beats off every couple days to label cats, artists, etc and it’s risky business. For now, you can look into it from a legal standpoint and/or use it as motivation to make more fiiiiiiiiyyyyya!!!! Sorry, I had to go there. lol Seriously, if you made a hot one, you can make another hot one!!! If you tracked it in ProTools or something similar, the session should be date stamped. GOD BLESS

  • http://twitter.com/realfrequency Vatkeezy

    Yeah that’s not really Fame, I’m going to reserve my judgment until I hear what he say to say. This type of shit happens all the time though. The lesson to be learned is put drops on your beat CD to avoid shit like this.

  • http://www.plussignvibes.com/atfradio Myk Blauuw

    wow, ppl need to calm down until some official word comes out.

    I really don’t trust a DJ Premier FAN SITE….that’s like trusting Wikipedia.

    It’s obvious the beat was jacked, but who’s to say that Fizzy KNEW he was jacking someone.

    That dude Kil said that he gave a beat tape to their HYPEMAN. I know there are other situations where a producer will purchase a beat with the stipulation that they get to take full credit for the beat. What if the Hypeman said he knew the guy who made the beat & that he just wanted $ & no credit?

    In that situation, yea Fizzy still took credit for something he didn’t do, but it’s not the same as say, the Charles Hamilton situation where he was obviously lying but wouldn’t admit it in the face of hard evidence.

  • http://www.liar.com Lartiz

    Hey Lil fame you arrogant stealer : WHY SHOULD HE TAG HIS BEATS IF YOU JUST DID IT AGAIN ? Can’t you see you just tell your own lie to the world after having shown your sense of honesty (in face of a real true fan even more !). You should have just apologize and offer this guy sthing to show you feel what you say.

    Now for my next Dj sets MOP will mean “Missing On Playlist”.

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