Comments on: Lil Fame Releases OFFICIAL Statement Regarding Beat Jacking Allegations

By: M.O.P.|Foundation : nappyafro.com

M.O.P.|Foundation : nappyafro.com — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:09:08 +0000

[...] 9. Rude Bastard Produced by Kil Beats The one thing that first jumps out is the sample used. Which is funny because there has been a lot of controversy over who actually found the sample and produced this track (It’s basically been alleged that Lil’ Fame stole the beat). I personally think the track presented here is average; nothing too memorable. I listed Kil Beats as the producer because Fame released a statement saying he didn’t produce it. If you wan more of the confusion around this track, you can go here and here. [...]

By: Thomas

Thomas — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:29:18 +0000

http://thelanetwork.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mop-doa-dj-critical-hype

By: Potholes In My Blog » The Weekly Rundown (Sept. 14-21)

Potholes In My Blog » The Weekly Rundown (Sept. 14-21) — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:05:06 +0000

[...] Lil Fame releases OFFICIAL statement regarding beat-jacking allegation. Looks like it comes down to a simple mistake. We’re glad to see this get cleared up because both parties deserve their shine and shouldn’t have it marred by something like this. [...]

By: Lunchbox

Lunchbox — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:40:31 +0000

I think my artist Kil’s response was adequate. The explanation given from the other side…not so much. If this were in fact a “clerical” error that just means a typo. That means the email address on the CD was contacted, the name of the CD was contacted by the number on the CD, discussing his fee, terms of use, and credits. That was not done. Now…..I’m glad parties have contacted Kil to resolve this issue but it appears that there has been a lot of responsibility passing and no one owning up to anything. This happens to quite a many producers and lyricists quite often and for a second, MOP/Laze fell into that category. I hope to see this come to a very pleasant conclusion on both ends getting what they want so that I may be able to go back to blasting one of my favorite groups the right way…in my stereo, not on a website.

By: JJ

JJ — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:36 +0000

What’s the normal protocol when a producer hands out a beat tape to an MC? Is the MC expected to pay for the beat? Or is he only expected to credit the producer?

Just curious b/c it seems kind of weird that the dude isn’t getting any money for his work.

By: Charity

Charity — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:53:17 +0000

Kevin, I gotta disagree with Casey. If you run this site with a particular audience in mind, I thinks it’s good of you all to throw your opinions and gut reactions into the mix for the sake of that audience. Not everyone will like it, but then the site isn’t built for everyone. Enough online “news” outlets are already built around the premise of regurgitating press release language from one party or another and letting that dominate their posts — but this is hip hop, not health care. Let it breathe. Good work.

By: RickDizzl

RickDizzl — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:35:11 +0000

You all need to calm down. Even the TRACKLIST on the BACK COVER was wrong, i mean how can you expect the production credits to be right then? it’s obvious the manager or some label-guy fucked this up. lil fame is one of the realest dudes in this game, i don’t think he did it on purpose.
first family 4 life, bitches!!

By: S.T.T.R.E.S.S.

S.T.T.R.E.S.S. — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:19:57 +0000

My opinion of the whole situation has’nt changed cuz how do u go from the time that u record to a beat til the time u release a whole joint, to get all that info straight.U know that u did’nt make the beat, and apparently it wasnt enough effort made to get in touch with who did make it.Me in that situation,I want to know who did the beat that i’m spitting to and how did thet get it.Cuz 1,I would want to know if it’s legit so it wont come back to bite me in the ass(a la EVE and Swizz Beats).2, I would want to know just in case I wanting to get up with that cat again for another beat.And I would DEFINITELY check out everything before it’s pressed up and released, if nothing else but to check for spelling mistakes on the written content.That would be a first in the history of music if a song did’nt have a production credit.Let me go and put my boots on cuz it’s getting a little thick in here.SMH

By: khal

khal — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:56:01 +0000

what more can he say? he admitted to rhyming over the beat and not writing it – he said he gave credits to be added. they weren’t added properly. ask kid cudi about typos on album credits.

By: Casey

Casey — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:34:08 +0000

You guys did a good job of breaking/creating this story, and getting it attention. However, you learned the lesson that a news source should always use unbiased language. Let the facts do the talking. I think this shows that people are listening to what is being said on this website, though.

As for the actual issue, Fame’s statement here clarified it pretty well. Not MOP’s fault.

By: Dr. MaD

Dr. MaD — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:44:49 +0000

Laze!! Fire him!!

By: jobu

jobu — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:59:34 +0000

artist “steals” song from unknown producer = producer sampling/chopping music that’s not there’s and claims reproduction/creation of entirely new song????????

By: Frost Gamble

Frost Gamble — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:16:18 +0000

Major respect to http://www.kevinnottingham.com for helping to resolve this!

By: Sean Deez

Sean Deez — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:06:15 +0000

I’m happy with the fact that we put this issue on the pedestal and figured things out. The problem is though, I’m not satisfied with this response. As one commenter said, its not like he went out of his way to fix the problem, so he might as well be a part of it.

Not only that, part of me doesn’t buy this response as genuine.

However, I am somewhat relieved that I don’t have to hate MOP for the rest of my life. And I’m happy that Kil, the name is out there

By: Psymun

Psymun — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:12:19 +0000

i’m pretty sure this is as far as it’ll go. it’s not like Fame is gonna change his story, whether it’s true or not.

By: okay

okay — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:41:39 +0000

Okay, so send the kid a check for his work and if the CD is pressed again give credit where credit is do. Enough said.

By: Tommylux

Tommylux — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:58:08 +0000

I think the problem lies with the way artists often go about putting their albums together. The rappers hear a beat and tell their manager to sort out the legal stuff and that’s where it all goes wrong. If it’s a beat that’s lifted from a beat tape that you got from somebody you met long ago at a concert and it’s not “brandmarked” well, what are you gonna tell the record company when they print the cover? Now I’m not a lawyer or anything and I don’t do business with beats but if I was to take this seriously, I’d go all over the beat like Alchemist with his annoying thing or lay an acapella over it. Customers could still try and redo it but that’s where your sample source better be as hard to trace as possible. If then an artist was interested to buy, I’d definitely make sure to get some kind of written and signed form or “receipt” that the beat was sold to so and so and that clearly states the producer credits. If you’re gonna sue an artist just on the base that you have a similar sounding beat at home, you’re gonna fall on deaf ears

By: DJTommyIIGunz

DJTommyIIGunz — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:57:08 +0000

Honestly I think this whole statement from Fame is BS. You gotta admit the official response about this seems very “George Bush 2003″
He ripped the track and it’s obvious. He didn’t just rap over it like he said in the statement. He threw in a couple piano riffs so he could try and mask it. Now I could’ve understood if he’d said “Well I had the track and I couldn’t figure out who the producer was that did it. so I just put the joint out with my name on it so that when He spoke up on it I could Change the credits for him”
That would’ve been more believable. But this statement is very OJ Simpson. “I didn’t kill Nicole” lol

By: Blacka

Blacka — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:12:46 +0000

…and I gave a beat CD to DR Dre years ago which became the Chronic album lol smh!

Stop giving out your beats then they wont get used…

Put fuckin background noise or Jingles behind it if u must, use your brains!

You’re all so concerned about gettin famous you dont THINK about your options!

Put a rapper on it if you have to…

No idea’s original, its also highly likely that somebody had the same feeling as you (Shit happens often) and sampled the thing you sampled a week ago but used it better…

By: manz

manz — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:43:56 +0000

I’m glad we have sites like yours Kev that can bring issues like this to light and hopefully will help someone not have this happen to them. You did the right thing posting Kil’s situation and reaching out to Fame’s peeps. Fame did the right thing by courteously responding. I hope this resolves the issue for Kil. Kil, Keep on that grind homie, hopefully only good things will come out of this for you. Peace.