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	<title>Comments on: M.O.P. Manager Releases Another Official Statement Regarding Beat Jacking Allegations</title>
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		<title>By: rampage</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47403</link>
		<dc:creator>rampage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people dont understand how the industry is. Shit like this happens all the time. Producers jack beats and labels/management mess up the credits. I dont think fame tried to take credit for someone else&#039;s beat. He got dope beats of his own. I do believe there was a mix up with the credits. Fame may be guilty of not followin up on things like producer credits, spelling, etc. Usually management handles this stuff. Kil deserves to be credited but he should have went through the proper channels to resolve the issue instead of just sayin cats stole from him. Hopefully both sides have learned from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people dont understand how the industry is. Shit like this happens all the time. Producers jack beats and labels/management mess up the credits. I dont think fame tried to take credit for someone else&#8217;s beat. He got dope beats of his own. I do believe there was a mix up with the credits. Fame may be guilty of not followin up on things like producer credits, spelling, etc. Usually management handles this stuff. Kil deserves to be credited but he should have went through the proper channels to resolve the issue instead of just sayin cats stole from him. Hopefully both sides have learned from this.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Rizzle</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47217</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Rizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The typical bullshit response...MOP should jus man up and admit to what the phuck they did, pay youngin, sign him to his camp then move on from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The typical bullshit response&#8230;MOP should jus man up and admit to what the phuck they did, pay youngin, sign him to his camp then move on from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47215</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kil will be replying with his own official statement once everything is settled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kil will be replying with his own official statement once everything is settled.</p>
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		<title>By: Peet</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47213</link>
		<dc:creator>Peet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kil you out there?  Care to fill us in on the phone call with Fame?  We all dying to hear man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kil you out there?  Care to fill us in on the phone call with Fame?  We all dying to hear man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spoil Sport</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47211</link>
		<dc:creator>Spoil Sport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe anyone would think that a statement like this is acceptable (not least of all because of the bad spelling and poor grasp of grammar).

If, as the story has been told, neither the artist or management made any attempt to get in touch with the beat maker, to say that it was simply a &quot;clerical error&quot; is nonsense.  To have contacted the beat maker, agreed a fee, signed a licence and then to have made a mistake on the album credits would be a clerical error.  To not bother to do any of those things is something quite different altogether.

To then issue a statement in an attempt to talk your way out of the whole thing is only making matters worse, especially when about half of the statement focuses on painting the beat maker as some &#039;kid&#039;, who should feel lucky they put him on.  

To be frank, it&#039;s a pretty simple beat that wouldn&#039;t be technically difficult to recreate, but nonethless, if I were the beat maker I&#039;d be pretty offended by this statement.

If anything good comes out of this, I hope it is that other artists / managers realise they&#039;re going to lose respect (and most likely album sales) if they don&#039;t play by the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone would think that a statement like this is acceptable (not least of all because of the bad spelling and poor grasp of grammar).</p>
<p>If, as the story has been told, neither the artist or management made any attempt to get in touch with the beat maker, to say that it was simply a &#8220;clerical error&#8221; is nonsense.  To have contacted the beat maker, agreed a fee, signed a licence and then to have made a mistake on the album credits would be a clerical error.  To not bother to do any of those things is something quite different altogether.</p>
<p>To then issue a statement in an attempt to talk your way out of the whole thing is only making matters worse, especially when about half of the statement focuses on painting the beat maker as some &#8216;kid&#8217;, who should feel lucky they put him on.  </p>
<p>To be frank, it&#8217;s a pretty simple beat that wouldn&#8217;t be technically difficult to recreate, but nonethless, if I were the beat maker I&#8217;d be pretty offended by this statement.</p>
<p>If anything good comes out of this, I hope it is that other artists / managers realise they&#8217;re going to lose respect (and most likely album sales) if they don&#8217;t play by the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that was the gist of it bailey....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that was the gist of it bailey&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bailey</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47163</link>
		<dc:creator>bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how they gonna release something to address the beat jacking allegation and the first thing this nigga gon say is a plug for the album?

&quot;i gotta make some shit clear real fast ... and it&#039;s that the foundation droppin september 15th.

p.s. some nigga made a mistake but we got it handled.&quot;

we don&#039;t wanna hear that shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how they gonna release something to address the beat jacking allegation and the first thing this nigga gon say is a plug for the album?</p>
<p>&#8220;i gotta make some shit clear real fast &#8230; and it&#8217;s that the foundation droppin september 15th.</p>
<p>p.s. some nigga made a mistake but we got it handled.&#8221;</p>
<p>we don&#8217;t wanna hear that shit</p>
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		<title>By: Deez</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47148</link>
		<dc:creator>Deez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to mention misspelling one of the &quot;talents&quot; he took pride in bringing up.

also, that hype williams comment is bold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention misspelling one of the &#8220;talents&#8221; he took pride in bringing up.</p>
<p>also, that hype williams comment is bold</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody Famous</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47146</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody Famous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for an &quot;official&quot; statement, dude sure has horrible writing skills

reasons? mack? yawl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for an &#8220;official&#8221; statement, dude sure has horrible writing skills</p>
<p>reasons? mack? yawl?</p>
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		<title>By: Deez</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47143</link>
		<dc:creator>Deez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro.. tell me about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro.. tell me about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cyclops</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47141</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyclops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he&#039;s making it like MOP are the victims</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s making it like MOP are the victims</p>
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		<title>By: Deez</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47140</link>
		<dc:creator>Deez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This still leaves so much to be desired though, doesn&#039;t it?

I mean, the way I feel about it, until Kil gets his, this is still an issue unsettled on the MOP camp&#039;s side.

Here&#039;s the thing, until this is settled, the entire MOP family looks at fault for this, since at this point, we have no idea who to point the finger at. Fame blamed someone it seems, now the person he&#039;s blaming is putting it on another party, etc. This could go on forever.

For a group so hardcore, so raw, so gritty, and so about being blunt, this is bullshit. MOP are some of my heroes of rap, and this, this response doesn&#039;t &quot;make things better,&quot; in fact, it really side steps the issue. 

I recently was Editor in Chief of a Magazine publication here. I&#039;ve read this thing at LEAST 10-15 times to make sure there were no errors. It&#039;s non-profit, we aren&#039;t making money off of it. With something with money at stake, with careers on stake, I&#039;d figure &quot;The Foundation&quot; would&#039;ve gone through a similar process. 

If you guys really did care about keeping this game clean, keeping dignity and respect and pride in hip hop, then this wouldn&#039;t of happened and handled so poorly at the moment.

Big shouts to Kevin, Thomas and crew for doing work on this, because really, this is about to hit a low point for me and my love for MOP.... and man, it really really sucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This still leaves so much to be desired though, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I mean, the way I feel about it, until Kil gets his, this is still an issue unsettled on the MOP camp&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing, until this is settled, the entire MOP family looks at fault for this, since at this point, we have no idea who to point the finger at. Fame blamed someone it seems, now the person he&#8217;s blaming is putting it on another party, etc. This could go on forever.</p>
<p>For a group so hardcore, so raw, so gritty, and so about being blunt, this is bullshit. MOP are some of my heroes of rap, and this, this response doesn&#8217;t &#8220;make things better,&#8221; in fact, it really side steps the issue. </p>
<p>I recently was Editor in Chief of a Magazine publication here. I&#8217;ve read this thing at LEAST 10-15 times to make sure there were no errors. It&#8217;s non-profit, we aren&#8217;t making money off of it. With something with money at stake, with careers on stake, I&#8217;d figure &#8220;The Foundation&#8221; would&#8217;ve gone through a similar process. </p>
<p>If you guys really did care about keeping this game clean, keeping dignity and respect and pride in hip hop, then this wouldn&#8217;t of happened and handled so poorly at the moment.</p>
<p>Big shouts to Kevin, Thomas and crew for doing work on this, because really, this is about to hit a low point for me and my love for MOP&#8230;. and man, it really really sucks</p>
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		<title>By: T.A.T.E.</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47139</link>
		<dc:creator>T.A.T.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...this clarifies nothing. Someone identified in the other post that the beat was slower and the hats were different. How did THAT happen? I really believe that Fame redid (or adjusted) the beat and felt as though he would get away with it. Just man up and stop making excuses. Admit you were wrong, fix it and keep it moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;this clarifies nothing. Someone identified in the other post that the beat was slower and the hats were different. How did THAT happen? I really believe that Fame redid (or adjusted) the beat and felt as though he would get away with it. Just man up and stop making excuses. Admit you were wrong, fix it and keep it moving.</p>
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		<title>By: S.T.T.R.E.S.S.</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47126</link>
		<dc:creator>S.T.T.R.E.S.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man,u said all of that to say what?I&#039;ve always been a MOP fan, but jacking is jacking,no matter what your past history says.There never was a clerical error with those other producers.Besides, a clerical error is usually when u misspell someone&#039;s name,not totally forget to give that person credit at all.That same shit wouldnt have happened if it was Preemo or some other big producer.No matter how u chop it up,smash it ,grind it,blend it or puree it, it&#039;s still gonna be peanuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man,u said all of that to say what?I&#8217;ve always been a MOP fan, but jacking is jacking,no matter what your past history says.There never was a clerical error with those other producers.Besides, a clerical error is usually when u misspell someone&#8217;s name,not totally forget to give that person credit at all.That same shit wouldnt have happened if it was Preemo or some other big producer.No matter how u chop it up,smash it ,grind it,blend it or puree it, it&#8217;s still gonna be peanuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Gee</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47121</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Gee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line - On a major release, saying that the manager forgot to add your name on the album is about as bullshit an answer as you can get. Are they really gonna tell us that they just played a beat and rhymed and wow, it&#039;s on the album? I didn&#039;t think guys who have been struggling and at it for so long would ever do that......keep talking in circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line &#8211; On a major release, saying that the manager forgot to add your name on the album is about as bullshit an answer as you can get. Are they really gonna tell us that they just played a beat and rhymed and wow, it&#8217;s on the album? I didn&#8217;t think guys who have been struggling and at it for so long would ever do that&#8230;&#8230;keep talking in circles.</p>
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		<title>By: reasonable</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47112</link>
		<dc:creator>reasonable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright...it&#039;s been acknowledged, so is Kil going to get paid now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright&#8230;it&#8217;s been acknowledged, so is Kil going to get paid now?</p>
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		<title>By: C-Bone</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47108</link>
		<dc:creator>C-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you expect anything different?  Of course, coming out and admitting 100% responsibility would have been nice, but not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you expect anything different?  Of course, coming out and admitting 100% responsibility would have been nice, but not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee Banger</title>
		<link>http://kevinnottingham.com/2009/09/14/m-o-p-manager-releases-another-official-statement-regarding-beat-jacking-allegations/#comment-47106</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee Banger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, he doesn&#039;t actually say anything in that... it&#039;s like politician talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, he doesn&#8217;t actually say anything in that&#8230; it&#8217;s like politician talk.</p>
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