Comments on: Pete Rock Calls Blogger Mix “Lazy” http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/ Quality Music Reviews, Production/Sample Credits, and News from Kevin Nottingham Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:54:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Dan Love http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11349 Dan Love Thu, 15 May 2008 10:05:58 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11349 Thanks for the love Kevin. More mixes to come in the future. Peace, Dan Thanks for the love Kevin. More mixes to come in the future.

Peace,

Dan

]]> By: Marcha http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11356 Marcha Thu, 15 May 2008 15:34:54 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11356 what's happening to pete rock? first attack kanye, now the mixes... Damn Pete YOU MAAAAAAAAAD? what’s happening to pete rock? first attack kanye, now the mixes… Damn Pete YOU MAAAAAAAAAD?

]]> By: Dan Love http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11357 Dan Love Thu, 15 May 2008 15:59:10 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11357 Just to clear this up... I think Rafi at Oh Word was using some artistic license here to promote the mix: wouldn't take the Pete beef too seriously. I mean damn, I'd be stoked if PR himself had something to say about my little mix project but I'm afraid that as it stands I don't think he has an opinion on the matter ;) Just to clear this up…

I think Rafi at Oh Word was using some artistic license here to promote the mix: wouldn’t take the Pete beef too seriously.

I mean damn, I’d be stoked if PR himself had something to say about my little mix project but I’m afraid that as it stands I don’t think he has an opinion on the matter ;)

]]> By: Kevin http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11358 Kevin Thu, 15 May 2008 16:17:15 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11358 Hmmm... ok. Hmmm… ok.

]]> By: Stolonius http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11367 Stolonius Thu, 15 May 2008 21:59:45 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11367 The one thing about Pete Rock and Premier for that matter is that they have always said that compilations and mixes like this are considered lazy. That is cool as its Pete's his own opinion. He admits to sampling and think we should dig as hard as they do...my thing is ...at least he is not saying "TAKE IT DOWN NOW." Funny thing though is that Kon and Amir have put out mix CD's with sampled records only they are respected for it ???? Its been written that they have provided producers a lot of records as they are diggers too, I wonder if that makes the difference ??? The one thing about Pete Rock and Premier for that matter is that they have always said that compilations and mixes like this are considered lazy. That is cool as its Pete’s his own opinion. He admits to sampling and think we should dig as hard as they do…my thing is …at least he is not saying “TAKE IT DOWN NOW.” Funny thing though is that Kon and Amir have put out mix CD’s with sampled records only they are respected for it ???? Its been written that they have provided producers a lot of records as they are diggers too, I wonder if that makes the difference ???

]]> By: Kevin http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11368 Kevin Thu, 15 May 2008 22:38:21 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11368 Good point Stolonius! Good point Stolonius!

]]> By: jorge engineer http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11386 jorge engineer Fri, 16 May 2008 15:26:35 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11386 What if your sample source is something well known, like Nautilus? Is someone still sharking your steez then? What about when the same sample has been flipped by numerous people? People may just dig the sample source or decide to flip a different part of the song with possibly a better sample. Is sampling someone's drum break considered "lazy" in the eyes of the drummer because it was their playing in their kit that was miked up for their use. I'm not trying to front on you Soul Brother, but does the issue change when you take a couple steps back? Remember, we all stand on someone else's shoulders, including Pete Rock. Read the Unkut interview where he cites Howie Tee and 45 King. Again, no disrespect to Pete Rock (who went about it better), but the argument has holes. What if your sample source is something well known, like Nautilus? Is someone still sharking your steez then? What about when the same sample has been flipped by numerous people? People may just dig the sample source or decide to flip a different part of the song with possibly a better sample.

Is sampling someone’s drum break considered “lazy” in the eyes of the drummer because it was their playing in their kit that was miked up for their use.

I’m not trying to front on you Soul Brother, but does the issue change when you take a couple steps back?

Remember, we all stand on someone else’s shoulders, including Pete Rock. Read the Unkut interview where he cites Howie Tee and 45 King.

Again, no disrespect to Pete Rock (who went about it better), but the argument has holes.

]]> By: Kevin http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11387 Kevin Fri, 16 May 2008 15:58:11 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11387 where's this interview at Jorge? where’s this interview at Jorge?

]]> By: jorge engineer http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11389 jorge engineer Fri, 16 May 2008 16:41:13 +0000 http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/05/14/pete-rock-calls-blogger-mix-lazy/#comment-11389 http://www.unkut.com/2008/04/pete-rock-the-unkut-interview/ Check his comments on Howie Tee, 45 King, Marley Marl, his "borrowing" from Jay-Z (which could be said about PR borrowing samples, or others "borrowing" "PR's" snares) down to the comment on the 900 Number sample. It just seems to me that his arguments are flawed in most respects except when it comes to using "his" sources. I know what he's -trying- to get at, but it's a hard point to make without -seeming- like a hypocrite. I'm not going to call the cat a thief, but how are you going to front on cats who are doing the same thing that you are? You might get your fingers dusty from digging by hand, digital diggers get eye strain from searching high and low for sources. http://www.unkut.com/2008/04/pete-rock-the-unkut-interview/

Check his comments on Howie Tee, 45 King, Marley Marl, his “borrowing” from Jay-Z (which could be said about PR borrowing samples, or others “borrowing” “PR’s” snares) down to the comment on the 900 Number sample.

It just seems to me that his arguments are flawed in most respects except when it comes to using “his” sources. I know what he’s -trying- to get at, but it’s a hard point to make without -seeming- like a hypocrite.

I’m not going to call the cat a thief, but how are you going to front on cats who are doing the same thing that you are? You might get your fingers dusty from digging by hand, digital diggers get eye strain from searching high and low for sources.

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