David Axelrod: Swizz vs. Joe Fatal vs. Beatnuts vs. Black Sheep

David Axelrod: Swizz vs. Joe Fatal vs. Beatnuts vs. Black Sheep

David Axelrod: “Holy Thursday”
From Songs of Innocence (1968)

Lil’ Wayne: “Dr. Carter”
From Tha Carter III (2008)
Produced by Swizz Beatz

Fat Joe: “Bronx Keeps Creating It”
From Jealous One’s Envy (1995)
Produced by Joe Fatal

The Beatnuts: “Hit Me With That”
From Street Level (1994)
Produced by The Beatnuts

Black Sheep: “Without A Doubt”
From Non-Fiction (1994)
Produced by Black Sheep & Salaam Remi

Whew! When I took a listen to Lil’ Wayne’s latest album and got to the Swizz Beatz’s produced “Dr. Carter”, I was like damn, I know this sample’s been flipped before. It’s been flipped many times actually. Thomas came back and started emailing me all this other tracks that have sampled David Axelrod’s “Holy Thursday” and I was like ‘holy shit’. Anyway, there were so many great flips, that I had to pick three others to go against Dr. Carter and Swizzy.

Honestly, Swizz did nothing to the track. He basically just laid Weezy’s vocals over a loop. The other examples were flipped pretty tight. Beatnuts and Black Sheep? I torn between those to. But tell us what you think… or maybe on of the other tracks listed below…

“Holy Thursday” was also sampled in:

  • Apache - “Tonto”
  • Artifacts - “C’mon wit Da Git Down”
  • InI - “Think Twice” (produced by Pete Rock)
  • Mix Master Mike - “Black Level Clearance”
  • Quasimoto - “Return of the Loop Digga”
  • Red Hot Lover Tone - “Bust tha Maneuva”
  • UNKLE - “Rabbit in your Headlights”
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8 Comments

  1. Thomas
    Posted June 3, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Joe Fatal’s take on the track reeks of that mid 90’s knock and has other elements involved.

    The Beatnuts (who are under rated as producers) weave this sample the other beautifully together. Lots of stuff going on in the track, but it works.

    Swizz’s beat is just a loop of the track. Nothing special to it…simple. Conceptually Wayne’s song is stronger, but we’re talking about the track…not the lyrics/content of the song.

  2. Don_Gorgon
    Posted June 3, 2008 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    holy thursday is also sampled in the chorus of “nasty scene” from the deda & pete rock “the original baby pa”

  3. wmjj47
    Posted June 3, 2008 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    I think Fat Joe’s version is the best out of those given. Apache and The Artifacts versions are also my favorites!

  4. Posted June 4, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    joes has the best knock, wayne and swiss best concept swiss didnt FLIP nothin, beatnuts fliped it best! pretty much Thomas hit it on the nose!

  5. S.T.T.R.E.S.S.
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    The 90s was the best for hip hop because you had more producers consistently coming out with “neck breakers”.I would have to give this one to Joe Fatal because that track was sooooo hard and at the same time melodic.I love Knock!!!!!I like the Beatnuts and the Black Sheep & Salaam Remi joints. They were always hitting with the party tracks.I’m not quite sure if it was used in Apache’s Tonto but if i’m not mistaken,it was used in Gangster Bitch I would have to go and check that out

  6. Induna
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    You have the wrong Black Sheep track. It’s actually the Lawnges Mix of the 12″ that uses the Holy Thursday sample and it’s the best of all these other tracks that use the same sample. Better than Lil’ Wayne and Fat Joe’s effort.

  7. Induna
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    I’ve put up a link to the track. Grab it quick.

    http://www.zshare.net/download/16864120c66f0c0f/

  8. Javier Zamora
    Posted October 6, 2008 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    Regardless, this is good breakdown of the songs history in hip hop.

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